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http://noscript.net/screenshots is very outdated, eg only 3 tabs on the Options dialog, 'Allow JavaScript Globally' instead of 'Scripts Globally Allowed', hardly anything under 'Advanced' tab, etc.

It's long been acknowledged that the entire FAQ needs a redo, but with the belief that NS 3.0 was "coming soon" -- hence requiring another rewrite -- only band-aids have been applied, as reported or needed. Agree with the observation -- "globally allowed" is described differently between pics 1 and 2, actually.

Given that we would all like for Giorgio to proceed with full speed on NS 3.0, any chance you'd care to volunteer to make a complete set of current screenshots, perhaps with suggested captions, and e-mail them to Giorgio, so that he could just cut-and-paste into the page's source code?

No obligation -- hope you're not sorry you brought it up -- but if so, I'll suggest that Giorgio change your title from "Senior Member" to "Awesome Assistant".

Done .

I used software@informaction.com; is that the best address?

Thrawn wrote:Done .

(APPLAUSE) I salute you, Sir! -- as we all should.

I used software@informaction.com; is that the best address?

I'm sure it will get there, although if you go to noscript.net and click on Giorgio's signature below the "Main Good News", or the second "here" above "Main Good News", or the "feel free to contact me" at the bottom of NoScript "Features" Page, or the signature to the right of that, or go to noscript.net/getit and click "let me know" under Feedback, or the signature to the right of that -- you'll be taken to Giorgio's personal web site vs. the company, which gives a direct e-mail address. ... not that anyone's complaining, mind you!

Just hoping that it doesn't get lost in the company shuffle. (Also, see PM shortly.) Thanks again!

Thank you very much, I'm gonna try to update the website over the weekend

I am curious to see what UI theme we will see, the previous Windows Whistler style looked great.

dhouwn wrote:I am curious to see what UI theme we will see, the previous Windows Whistler style looked great.

????
We're just talking about replacing the NS screenshots at http://noscript.net/screenshots, which are indeed out-of-date, per the OP.
Didn't think Giorgio's comment implied a complete redo of the site, including style or theme, although I could be mistaken.
IMHO, that time would be better spent on projects like NS 3, while the pics for new users indeed do need to be made current.

ETA: If you're referring to the theme of the screenshots, I'm guessing it will be Thrawn's Ubuntu theme, but does it really matter?

dhouwn wrote:I am curious to see what UI theme we will see, the previous Windows Whistler style looked great.

Nothing very exciting, I'm afraid. I don't use any custom themes. Maybe when NS3 comes out and we do this again, you can choose one.

Thrawn wrote:... Maybe when NS3 comes out and we do this again, you can choose one.

LOL. ... IMHO, the simpler, the better. Fancy themes distract from the content. Maybe in a movie-review site or social site, but for a *tutorial* -- keep the focus on the material, not the wallpaper.

Tom T. wrote:ETA: If you're referring to the theme of the screenshots, I'm guessing it will be Thrawn's Ubuntu theme, but does it really matter?

Nah, not very much. But still I was being serious in that I like the theme. BTW, the Windows 8 theme looks again a little bit more like it (e.g. button flatter and title bar color re-used). But yeah, the current default Ubuntu theme (which I believe hasn't changed much since 10.04) isn't the worst either.

Updated, thank you.

Looks good to me .

Dhouwn, what do you think of my theme?

Thrawn wrote:Dhouwn, what do you think of my theme?

Looks great, it's probably a good thing that it's gray since it's not supposed to distract. Though what did caught my eye was the greyscale font anti-aliasing, I and probably others too don't like reading texts anti-aliased this way, but then there is not much to read so it shouldn't matter much. Also, subpixel AA it's device-independent, so it's the right anti-aliasing method when doing screenshots.

I have only a few questions about this otherwise-great job by Thrawn.

1) Should the link on XSS go to NS XSS FAQ v. Wikipedia? Keep it "in house", and not make users feel that they'll be sent running to an encyclopedia as they use NS?

2) Somewhat similar question on ABE link -- goes to noscript.net/abe; would ABE FAQ be a more useful introduction for new users? I don't have strong feelings on this, though.

3) Should Force HTTPS have an entry or two for illustration?
*,mybank.com *.otherbank.com *.creditcard.com


Old Fogey comment:
The screenshots are so wonderfully large (hence, easy to read) that they dwarf the captions. Looks like the same font as NS FAQ, but the pics so dominate the visual .... Perhaps larger and/or bolder? ... and/or a stronger divider, so it's clear at first glance which caption goes with which pic?

Viewing from POV of new user, I almost missed the intro,

You should enable JavaScript only where you are sure it is safe. Now you can do it with ONE CLICK!

thinking it was just part of the general promotional material, and it took a moment to realize that it was, in fact, the caption for the first screenshot.
(Many pics have their captions underneath, rather than above. Not saying this way is wrong; just make it obvious to our poor, befuddled new user or prospective user.)

Closer, larger, arrow from top of pic (directly underneath caption) to pertinent part of pic, or perhaps just circle or otherwise highlight what part of the pic is pertinent to the caption? Just sayin'... . E. g.

NoScript notifies you about blocked script tags (<script>) and other active content using a standard "Popup blocker" style messages

but the NS Menu is fully a third of the pic, while what's being described is the small blue bar at the bottom.
Cut out the menu, and highlight (circle in red, e. g.) the popup at the bottom?

Also, the link to "customize or disable" the pop-up points to the General tab pic, not the Notifications tab.

In fact, there isn't a pic for Notifications tab as AFAICT. Should there be one?

OK, Old Fogey out. Would very much welcome others' reactions to the above.

Super thanks to Thrawn and Giorgio for the HUGE improvement!

Main point: I just wanted to say thank you to Thrawn for an excellent improvement.

I particularly like the first screenshot (at secunia.com).
It is an excellent choice. It illustrates the fact that it is the
Plugins that, these days, tend to be the hardest for folk to
keep up to date!

Minor points:

I agree with Tom T. and dhouwn about grey color and the simple theme.

Tom T. wrote: ... but for a *tutorial* -- keep the focus on the material, not the wallpaper.

I also agree with Tom T.'s (Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:58 am) "Old Fogey comment:" section.
The text could be a bit bigger given the size of the illustrations.

I also like the illustrated Add-on Bar, showing 3/11 Scripts while at gop: the second screenshot.

Now, addressing Tom T.'s specific points: just MHO.

Tom T. wrote: 1) Should the link on XSS go to NS XSS FAQ v. Wikipedia? Keep it "in house", and not make users feel that they'll be
sent running to an encyclopedia as they use NS?

The advantage of Wikipedia, for new users / folk wondering about NoScript, is that it is a widely recognised source.

Could we not have both?

screenshots wrote: NoScript contains world-class filtering to protect you from cross-site scripting attacks.

Could become

screenshots wrote: NoScript contains world-class filtering to protect you from cross-site scripting attacks: see FAQ.

with both the link to Wikipedia and the NoScript FAQ.

Tom T. wrote: 2) Somewhat similar question on ABE link -- goes to noscript.net/abe; would ABE FAQ be a more useful introduction for
new users? I don't have strong feelings on this, though.

I agree, ABE FAQ would be more useful.
FAQ 8.1 "Q: What is ABE?" has a link to noscript.net/abe

Tom T. wrote: 3) Should Force HTTPS have an entry or two for illustration?
*,mybank.com *.otherbank.com *.creditcard.com

I get your point. OTOH most of the rest of the screenshots are similar to NoScript 'Out of the box': i.e. before one
changed the options.

Hypothetically, one could consider a link in the 'caption text' for "Embeddings" Tab to the forum
discussion about 'forbidding ALL' e.g.
Should I forbid <FRAME> & <IFRAME>?
http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8191

Back to the main point: thanks again Thrawn for the screenshots.

DJ-Leith