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[Resolved] Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:51 pm
by lazy
It's a bit tricky and there is a work-around, but very uncomfortably.
Since a few week, access to chip-card reader plug-in (banking: karte.seb-bank.de) seems to be invisibly blocked, except NoScript is disabled completely or Firefox 3.6 started with admin rights.
Only if trusted web-site (karte.seb-bank.de) is forbidden, it's possible to allow PPI Chipcard-Browser plug-in 1.2.11.0, but only temporarily. After setting website to 'allowed' again and do a browser restart, plug-in is blocked again, but no message shown and no chance to allow access.

Environment: Win7 Home Premium

Any idea how to configure NoScript?

Thanks in advance
Lazy

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:54 pm
by Giorgio Maone
Does it show in NoScript's Blocked objects submenu?

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:59 pm
by lazy
Yes, but only if trusted web-site (karte.seb-bank.de) is forbidden. Otherwise this submenu is not displayed.

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:55 pm
by Giorgio Maone
OK, I checked and it seems to work fine.
First time I loaded the page, I was asked by Firefox if I wanted to allow the site to install the plugin, and clicked "Allow", then proceeded with the installation.
When I restarted the browser, I found the plugin placeholder if the site was forbidden, and when I allowed the site the placeholder was replaced by the plugin content: "Keine installerten Kartenleser gefunden [...]" ("No installed card found [...]") and two buttons, "Wiederholen" ("Repeat") and "Details", which seems the expected behavior since I've got no card reader.
Could send me some screenshots?

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:33 pm
by lazy
Thanks at first. I'll try it again by un-installing plugin.
But, have you closed Firefox, re-opened and checked, if you have still access? As I described, plug-in is blocked and once site is allowed, there is no option to permit plug-in.

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:52 pm
by Giorgio Maone
lazy wrote:But, have you closed Firefox, re-opened and checked, if you have still access?
Yes I do. As soon as I allow the site, the plugin works (showing the "Card reader not found" message).
BTW, did you try using NoScript Options|Reset?

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:00 pm
by lazy
Thanks for the support so far.
I de-installed the plug-in, restarted Firefox, reseted NoScript, restarted Firefox, allowed seb-site, installed plug-in, restarted Firefox - Result :cry:
It seems to behave different.

I am only offered to allow the plug-in explicitly, when site is not allowed. And then, there are 3 options:
"x-ppi-chipcard-plugin-1.2.11.0@https://karte.seb-bank.de/gei/authentic ... nfront.jsp"
"*@https://karte.seb-bank.de"
"x-ppi-chipcard-plugin-1.2.11.0@https://karte.seb-bank.de"

But, all are named as "temporary" - and if granted, it behaves like this

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:24 pm
by Giorgio Maone
lazy wrote:I am only offered to allow the plug-in explicitly, when site is not allowed.
What does happen, instead, when the site is allowed?
Could you show me a screenshot?

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:44 pm
by lazy
Giorgio Maone wrote: What does happen, instead, when the site is allowed?
Could you show me a screenshot?
Plug-in blocked, nothing shown to be allowed (blocked objects sub-menu not shown)
No, cannot because pop-ups disappear when moving mouse, sorry.

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:47 pm
by Giorgio Maone
lazy wrote:
Giorgio Maone wrote: Plug-in blocked
I wanted a screenshot to understand how you determine that plugin is blocked. I mean, do you get a message, a grey rectangle or what?
I don't care about the popup.

Re: Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:59 pm
by lazy
Following your hint to check the extensions, I identified the Skype add-on as root-cause. Disabling fixed the problem (but I de-installed it).

Many thanks for an excellent support. I'll tell my friends!

Re: [Resolved] Access to chip-card reader invisibly blocked?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:20 am
by thomas
Thanx for the help.
-thomas :D