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No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:21 pm
by jmacie
Thanks No Script, I've started using Firefox, after 23 years on IE. If it wasn't for Noscript, I might have to junk ff. All the ad ons make ff superior, but at the same time, the higher quality experience is marred by multitudes of ads and redirect hijacks and hijack viruses. Please if some one could develop a way to stop the ad bar on yoono, they piss me off with their "sports ads" popups, which are in fact sportsbook ads, and saying their a free app, plus they beg for donations. Now, asking for donations is NOT begging. But they say something totally different. In my day, When you play rock and roll, you have a second job

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:29 am
by Tom T.
Firefox has its own built-in pop-up blocker, under Tools > Options > Content. You can block all by checking the box, then allow any individual site by clicking the "Exceptions" tab.

If you don't like the yoono add-on and can't configure it to your taste (I'm not familiar with it), try searching the Mozilla add-ons for something else that might do what you want with less annoyance. Out of the thousands there, surely you'll find one.

If you feel that a Firefox add-on is actually adware, you could report that to Mozilla.

NoScript blocks most redirects. Check all of these tabs in Noscript > Options:
Notifications: Forbid META redirections inside <NOSCRIPT> elements
Advanced > Untrusted: Same as above.

Any add-on that is redirecting you against your will should be configurable not to do so. (E. g., when NS is updated, you can choose not to be taken to the home page where the new features and changes are discussed).

If an add-on is giving you what you feel is a "virus", contact the developer immediately, and if no satisfactory reply, contact Mozilla.

Incidentally, NoScript too accepts donations, but does not use pop-ups or begging, only small "donate" buttons at the home page, which you never have to visit.
It is quite a bit more complex and critical, and therefore more time-consuming to evolve, maintain, and support than most add-ons, being your main browser security defense tool against multiple threats, but it is still built and maintained by Giorgio Maone's own donated time, and supported by volunteers like my fellow team members and myself. We feel that it's worthwhile.

I agree that Firefox plus NoScript is the only way to browse the web. I haven't used IE in years. Thanks for your appreciation!

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:04 am
by dhouwn
jmacie wrote:after 23 years on IE
Yeah, sure…

What does this have to do with Noscript? I believe that this thread belongs rather to the "Web Tech" subforum.

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:39 pm
by Alan Baxter
dhouwn wrote:What does this have to do with Noscript? I believe that this thread belongs rather to the "Web Tech" subforum.
Or the dustbin. Maybe better to let this one just fade away. ;)

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:39 pm
by jmacie
Thanks, fades to dustbin

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:48 am
by Tom T.
If it wasn't for Noscript, I might have to junk ff
Guess I saw the glass as half-full, and was grateful for the kind words that OP gave to NoScript. Silly me.

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:49 am
by jmacie
Exactly Tom,
I truely believe NoScript protects me, and filters the daily deepening crap. I'm limited with script knowledge, so I was hoping to get an idea how to block an adware script on Yoono app. I had no expectation, and appreciate your info on Mozilla's addon develop. rules against adware. I wrote yoono a letter, they claim the gambling popup window, on my desktop, doesn't make their program adware, while admitting it's their ad. They consider questioning the "freeness" of their addon as distracting adware, is disparaging. I say, scripts are destroying my experience. thanks Tom and NoScript

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:59 am
by Alan Baxter
jmacie wrote:Thanks, fades to dustbin
:lol: I'm glad you like NoScript so much. Thank you for saying so.
Tom T. wrote:Guess I saw the glass as half-full, and was grateful for the kind words that OP gave to NoScript. Silly me.
Silly you. One of us has to see the glass as half empty. :P

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:00 am
by Tom T.
dhouwn wrote:
jmacie wrote:after 23 years on IE
Yeah, sure…

What does this have to do with Noscript? I believe that this thread belongs rather to the "Web Tech" subforum.
What it has to do is that OP was a hard-core IE user and converted to Fx and to NS, which is always nice to hear. Why is it out of line? (Rhetorical question).

Personally, I'm grateful when anyone says "thank you" for NS, rather than beating up on them for posting.

jmacie: Now you've got me curious. If I find time, I'll d/l yoono, either after making a reversible full-disk-image backup, or in a sandbox, and see if there's a way to block the junk. No promises, okay? ... and keep looking for another add-on that does the same thing without the ad bar.

Alan Baxter: Usually, it's I. :lol: Surprised ya, huh?

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:37 am
by Alan Baxter
jmacie wrote:I truely believe NoScript protects me, and filters the daily deepening crap. I'm limited with script knowledge, so I was hoping to get an idea how to block an adware script on Yoono app. I had no expectation, and appreciate your info on Mozilla's addon develop. rules against adware. I wrote yoono a letter, they claim the gambling popup window, on my desktop, doesn't make their program adware, while admitting it's their ad. They consider questioning the "freeness" of their addon as distracting adware, is disparaging. I say, scripts are destroying my experience. thanks Tom and NoScript
I installed the yoono browser add-on to see if I could reproduce your problem, but I don't see any popup window or ad bar. I'm not very optimistic that I could successfully block the stuff you're complaining about even if I could duplicate it. If I were you, I'd uninstall yoono. By installing it as a Firefox extension or standalone app, you pretty much give it full access to your computer. NoScript can't protect you from that.

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:18 am
by Tom T.
Alan Baxter wrote:I installed the yoono browser add-on to see if I could reproduce your problem, but I don't see any popup window or ad bar. I'm not very optimistic that I could successfully block the stuff you're complaining about even if I could duplicate it. If I were you, I'd uninstall yoono. By installing it as a Firefox extension or standalone app, you pretty much give it full access to your computer. NoScript can't protect you from that.
Alan beat me to it, but I got the same results -- no popup or ad bar. Your computer might be infested with other adware. Do a full scan with your anti-virus.
Also, I read yoono's Privacy Policy, and it was scary -- how much they'll be filtering your "keywords", to "target" material (ads) to you, tracking your searches and activity. They promise to "aggregate the data", i. e. not tie it to you individually, but since the items listed include IP address, how does that not tie back to you?
It's your choice, if it's worth it to you, but at least know what you're giving up in terms of privacy. I read the Privacy Policy of everything before using.

Also of note is that many, many scripts and other objects from third parties were trying to run. If you continue to use yoono, try trimming your whitelist to all but essentials, nothing related to yoono, and all scripts that are running at any given time, forbid them one at a time. If nothing breaks, leave that one forbidden. The fact that I had no scripting allowed may have helped me keep a clean screen. I expect that Alan didn't allow any of these many 3rd-party code objects, either.

For general ad-blocking, some people here like AdBlockPlus, though I am not personally familiar with it. I use AdBlock Original for as long as I continue to use this ancient Fx 2.20 browser, but ABO does not support F3+. You might try ABPlus.

If there is a single URL whose ad you want to stop -- that sportsbook -- you could use your Hosts file as a work-around to block it, or use one of the Hosts file services that block about 15,000 adware, spyware, and malware sites. This post and this one provide more information about using a Hosts file to block evil sites and adware. Please note that none of those services are connected with this Forum or its products, and therefore, no support, warranties, liabilty, etc. are offered or conveyed. Merely sharing a personal experience and opinion to try to help you, but not official recommendation of this forum. Use at your own risk.

Overall, yoono sounds pretty undesirable to me as well as to Alan. Think it over carefully. Good luck.

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:34 pm
by jmacie
O.K., thank you for All the info. I hesitate to say this, but it seems yoono has modified their adbox. About a week ago NoScript actually blocked the box sometimes. I tried to determine what scripts were being blocked when. I found that when I browsed pages with NO advertising NoScript would block the yoono ad box in it's entirety, but on webpages with ads the yoono ad box did it's thing. I wish I'd kept better track. I've since uninstalled, then later reinstalled yoono, and can't get any blocks. I guess the reason you can't duplicate my problem is the ONLY popup ad they run is a sportsbook ad, that is popped up with a mouse over, and is a rotating ad, with other hints and tips ads. It seems the ads are changed when you change webpages, but it's there. Right now, their only popup ad is sportsbook, but that's just recently the case, they had other popup ads before. Thanks for all your help.

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:04 am
by Tom T.
If you hover the mouse over the sportsbook ad (don't click it, of course), what URL (address) shows in the lower left bar of the browser? Is it consistent? If so, there's an easy work-around. Let me know.

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:36 pm
by jmacie
Wow, Finally got it blocked, Tom T. et al, thank you. I followed your instructions to provide page info script to you. In so doing, without clicking, the popup contained NoScript ability, I blocked all scripts, blamo! gone! Now I have another reason to donate to you. I hope I can get a job. Your near the top of my must list. Thanks again, jmacie

Re: No Script- Our only hope for the future

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:28 am
by Tom T.
jmacie wrote:Wow, Finally got it blocked, Tom T. et al, thank you. I followed your instructions to provide page info script to you. In so doing, without clicking, the popup contained NoScript ability, I blocked all scripts, blamo! gone! Now I have another reason to donate to you. I hope I can get a job. Your near the top of my must list. Thanks again, jmacie
Excellent news! Thanks for letting us know of your success with NoScript, and for your support of it. Please tell all of your friends. :) ... and good luck finding a job!