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Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:48 pm**

Can't seem to get the play button to work ... needed this purely to emphasise that the show had one moment of humour ...

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6mkcom

It doesn't report at all the dmleonyc.com domain, but I suspect that's because that will only flare up once the media is engaged.

Anyway, I mean, I got around it by temporarily disabling autoplay, but seemingly can't find the right combo of allowances to get it to work.

It could be that my other, very able

, extension is interfering, but as far as I can see the rules are solid there, too.

No need to keep this thread open, but it just seemed like something I'm not seeing as I've not actively done any noscripting for DM as yet.

Posted: **Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:29 pm**

Not sure I understand what I must look for.
I opened the link, and as soon as I set both dailymotion.com and dmcdn.com to TRUSTED the video starts playing automatically.
When I fly my mouse pointer over the video area a pause (||) button is available, and if I press it it turns into a play ( > ) button.
Is the latter supposed to be missing in the scenario depicted by your report?
Could you provide more details on how to reproduce it?
Thanks!

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:07 pm**

Sure, sorry ... this isn't a big deal, but it just irked me a bit that something is clearly getting in the way.

I'll also send you a VERY BRIEF DM (no reply expected) that indicates what my second last paragraph was referring to, but that's not an issue, I don't think as I've checked the rules there.

OK, so setup is:

Autoplay disabled globally on FF.
Zero noscript settings for dailymotion.
Zero conflicting add-ons, but tried with all disabled (apart from VDH) and same thing.

Results will be edited in because of anti-spam. (gallery):

This is with nothing allowed.
Both dailymotion.com & dmcdn.net temporarily allowed (cookies deny all) cannot click the 'play' button to start the video.
dm-event.net allowed (or just pebed & webed), still cannot click the 'play' button.

I wondered if the other thing (DM) needed anything for http://imasdk.googleapis.com. So I allowed that in NS, and tried every combination rule I could think of in the other thing.

As soon as I turn off autoplay for the site, it plays straight away ... however I cannot get it to allow me to click on the play button to play it.

Is this just FF autoplay BS actually blocking the video from playing or is there something I'm missing in my noscript setup here? Perhaps an XSS that isn't alerting? I'm beginning to think it might be the former, as if I allow autoplay I can stop and start the video at will (with everything as per the last image).

If this is the case then I'm super sorry for even mentioning it here ... it just all felt a little like it was something that I should mention was all.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm**

Giorgio Maone wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:29 pm as soon as I set both dailymotion.com and dmcdn.com to TRUSTED the video starts playing automatically.
When I fly my mouse pointer over the video area a pause (||) button is available, and if I press it it turns into a play ( > ) button.

Same here. And this play button works for me.

Mad_Man_Moon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:07 pm tried with all disabled (apart from VDH) and same thing.

Can you try with that one disabled as well?

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:29 am**

Sorry, I'd not come back after this, I'll try to check this soon.

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:06 pm**

(Since the OP's link is dead, https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x91qyo.)

Autoplay disabled globally on FF.

How do you do that?

(Un-freakin believable.
In about:config, on a numeric entry, if you change a value, the change is not effected until you click the "checkmark".
I.e., clicking outside the field does not set it.
In about:config, on a numeric entry, if you double-click on a numeric entry, the field "lights up", and even if you make no change, you still have to click the checkmark to get rid of the (numeric) dialog box outline.
What a horrid UI. Unbelievable.)

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:02 pm**

therube wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:06 pm
Autoplay disabled globally on FF.
How do you do that?

in firefox's "settings"/"privacy and security"/"permissions," there are settings for "autoplay" where you can set "autoplay" to "block audio and video."

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:48 pm**

Thanks.

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:36 pm**

It should be noted that (as I think I stated previously) if autoplay is enabled it works fine.

barbaz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm Same here. And this play button works for me.
Giorgio Maone wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:29 pm as soon as I set both dailymotion.com and dmcdn.com to TRUSTED the video starts playing automatically.
When I fly my mouse pointer over the video area a pause (||) button is available, and if I press it it turns into a play ( > ) button.

Also, disabling other extensions including VDH didn't help.

barbaz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm Can you try with that one disabled as well?
Mad_Man_Moon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:07 pm tried with all disabled (apart from VDH) and same thing.

This is my about:config for any settings with 'autoplay' in them:

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dom.media.autoplay.autoplay-policy-api	false	
media.autoplay.allow-extension-background-pages	true	
media.autoplay.block-event.enabled	false	
media.autoplay.block-webaudio	true	
media.autoplay.blocking_policy	2	
media.autoplay.default	5	
media.block-autoplay-until-in-foreground	false	
media.geckoview.autoplay.request	false	
media.geckoview.autoplay.request.testing	0	
services.sync.prefs.sync.media.autoplay.default	true

However autoplay and noscript as an intersection point shouldn't be an issue I'm thinking.

Here's the allowed list for dailymotion:

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dailymotion.com
dm-event.net
dmcdn.net
imasdk.googleapis.com

So given all of that, I tried disabled noscript in private windows and it still doesn't trigger there, so this thread can be locked/closed as unrelated, apologies to all.

It's still odd, though ... essentially (as far as my dumb ass can make out) Daily Motion uses the 'play' button to send an AUTOplay request (perhaps something to do with a 'life_cycle.autoplayResolution' node in the XHR JSON maybe?)... so FireFox naturally blocks it each time I click the button.

Perhaps they're just actively looking for, and denying autoplay blockers on DM

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18:26:52.985
XHRPOST STRIPPED URL FOR NS AS
[HTTP/1.1 200 OK 24ms]

18:26:56.704
XHRPOST STRIPPED URL FOR NS AS
[HTTP/1.1 200 OK 24ms]

18:26:56.729 Autoplay is only allowed when approved by the user, the site is activated by the user, or media is muted. 2 dmp.theme_neon.55b2bf607e9a051cd968.js:formatted:11647

That dmp js file links to this:

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{
          var i = e.tryMuted;
          Ln.log('Trying with muted = '.concat(i)),
          n.muted = i;
          var r = n.play() || (t ? u('UserActionCaught') : l('Unsupported'));
          r.then(() =>u('Allowed'), p)
        };

And this is whole hunk of pointless based on that:
https://faq.dailymotion.com/hc/en-us/ar ... r-Policies

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:56 pm**

Mad_Man_Moon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:36 pm so this thread can be locked/closed as unrelated, apologies to all.

Ok, done.

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