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[RESOLVED] Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:28 pm
by bo elam
I just noticed a new problem when opening pages with videos at cbssports.com after updating NoScript to version 10.1.9.2rc1. The videos don't play. Here are a couple of examples.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl- ... -top-spot/
https://imgur.com/a/dlblvrS

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/pete ... ack-bears/
https://imgur.com/a/1vCL43t

The problem occurs even after reloading the page or disabling "restrictions on the tab" (Edited). I tested with a new Firefox profile without NoScript and cbssports.com is working well, there is no issue with the site. There have been reloading issues at cbssports before but for the last couple of months everything had been working very well at the site with NoScript and Firefox.

Bo

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:35 pm
by barbaz
bo elam wrote:The problem occurs even after [...] disabling NoScript.
Then it is surely not a NoScript issue..

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:36 pm
by bo elam
Barbaz, the issue doesnt occur IF NoScript is not installed. Test the links I posted.

By the way, I meant "After disabling restrictions on the tab".

Bo

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:59 pm
by barbaz
bo elam wrote:Barbaz, the issue doesnt occur IF NoScript is not installed. Test the links I posted.
I tested your second link, and I *do* see the issue in Firefox 61.0.2, clean profile without NoScript installed.
bo elam wrote:By the way, I meant "After disabling restrictions on the tab".
Ok thanks for clarifying. ("disable NoScript" means "Tools > Add-ons Manager > NoScript > Disable")

Maybe your NoScript is blocking something that my DNS blacklist is also blocking?

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:33 am
by therube
Try resizing your browser.
See if the clip does not then appear?

(Seems to me, some browser, some site, ran into that issue.)
That's not it.

Works in SeaMonkey, NoScript 5, scripts Allowed Globally.
(My freakin'... they must have a miner on that site.)


Works in FF 61, NoScript 10.1.9.2rc2, scripts Allowed Globally.
(My freakin'... they must have a miner on that site.)


I got it (by allowing individual domains).
No way to capture the list, I suppose?
What a beast. Sorry, but why would anyone go through the trouble.

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:19 am
by bo elam
therube wrote: Works in FF 61, NoScript 10.1.9.2rc2, scripts Allowed Globally.
(My freakin'... they must have a miner on that site.)
I am in 61.0.2 and updated now to NoScript 10.1.9.2rc2. What I reported earlierl I am also seeing it in my W7. So, I see the problem in W10 64 bits and W7 32 bits. I think something must of changed in the pages at the site as yesterday all was well (even with NS 10.1.9.2rc1). And now, even with earlier stable NS versions, I cant play the videos unless NS is gone, using a new profile.
therube wrote: I got it (by allowing individual domains).
No way to capture the list, I suppose?
What a beast. Sorry, but why would anyone go through the trouble.
To me, it is worth it setting that site to the nitty gritty as I visit it every day. What you see below as Trusted is all I allow in that site to get what I want out of it. Setting it up like that has worked well since version 10 came out. But right now the site is not working for me anymore.

https://imgur.com/a/VftNeEw

Bo

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:29 am
by bo elam
barbaz wrote: I tested your second link, and I *do* see the issue in Firefox 61.0.2, clean profile without NoScript installed.
Thats interesting and different than what I see. Because with new profile, in both, W10 and W7, videos play well.
barbaz wrote: Maybe your NoScript is blocking something that my DNS blacklist is also blocking?
Perhaps. I also tested, disabling in Tools/Addons and Remove/Unistall NoScript (without restarting the browser), and the videos still dont play. I uninstalled NoScript running Firefox in a sandbox so cant restart the browser, did it that way which is not a perfect test as I would rather not uninstall it for real. But anyway, with new profile, videos play fine.

Bo

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:00 am
by skriptimaahinen
Without NoScript installed and with fresh restart of the browser:

Regular window: video plays fine.
Private browsing window: exactly same problem as in the images.

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:33 am
by therube
Confirmed.

Then its tracking protection, or some such kind of stuff.

And note that it was noted that Safe Mode (presumably in Quantum) disables tracking protection.
(And that is why when I tested in my regular Profile - in Safe Mode, that the video did work.)


So this is not a NoScript issue.

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:07 pm
by musonius
therube wrote:Then its tracking protection, or some such kind of stuff.
The strict list of tracking protection blocks embedded YouTube and Vimeo videos (and probably other videos as well) for about two or three months now (exception: youtube-nocookie.com videos should work).

Maybe this is relevant here.

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:26 pm
by bo elam
So, I guess everyone is experiencing the issue with videos at cbssports when NoScript is working, right?

skriptimaahinen, any suggestion on what to do? Reading is whats most important at cbssports but the quality of the videos get better during football season, and football season starts tomorrow. :)

Bo

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:46 pm
by musonius
I am experiencing the problem without an installation of NoScript and with activated Tracking Protection (using the strict list). Without TP the videos are playing. Therefore, it need not be a NoScript issue.

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:52 pm
by skriptimaahinen
No, I do manage to get the videos to play when NoScript is on. I just need to allow metric **** ton of domains, including facebook.com and facebook.net for who knows what reason. Also "Disable restrictions for this tab" works fine.

However, I do see the problem if I have "inadequate" amount of the domains allowed.

So it looks like you just need to allow more domains, but since you said that even using "Disable restrictions for this tab" does not help, it could be something else.

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:00 pm
by barbaz
skriptimaahinen wrote:I just need to allow [...] including facebook.com and facebook.net
Thanks, that would explain why I couldn't get it working at all.
skriptimaahinen wrote:So it looks like you just need to allow more domains, but since you said that even using "Disable restrictions for this tab" does not help, it could be something else.
@bo elam, if you do allow more domains individually (or by repeatedly setting all to Temp. Trusted), do you still see the issue?
Also, do you have anything un-checked in your settings for the Trusted preset?

Re: Problem at cbssports with NS build 10.1.9.2rc1

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:14 am
by therube
Just what part did we miss?


New Profile
Load https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl- ... -top-spot/
Video Plays

Tools | Options | Privacy & Security -> Tracking Protection ---> ALWAYS

Reload https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl- ... -top-spot/

Video Fails


NoScript is not involved, period.
Now if you use NoScript, the video still works - after you allowed needed domains AND assuming you don't have Tracking Protection enabled (or some other blocking - other then NoScript) going on that cbssports does not like.