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µBlock Origin thread
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:55 pm
by lakrsrool
Not knowing a better place to ask.
Is there a uBlock forum?
Here's the problem:
uBlock not whitelisting Yahoo then ads get blocked but also what gets blocked is what I should have at the top of the Yahoo UI. Yahoo mail logo, search, buttons to the right including settings and logoff (not showing in image) are all missing in the image below.
uBlock has Yahoo Whitelisted ads are NOT blocked but at least I do get what I should get at the top of the Yahoo UI. Yahoo logo, search, very critical buttons all display (settings and logoff buttons display but are cutoff in the image) but the ads of course display as well in the Yahoo inbox interface.
uBlock is blocking important UI stuff unless I Whitelist Yahoo but then I'm stuck with ads by Whitelisting.
EDIT: renamed thread in case others might want to use the topic for questions or problems w/ uBlock.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:59 pm
by barbaz
Splitting off to a new thread.
Are you using ublock or uBlock Origin?
Re: ublock question
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:05 pm
by Thrawn
The best place to go is the
Github project, which has an issue tracker.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:21 pm
by barbaz
Thrawn wrote:The best place to go is the
Github project, which has an issue tracker.
No it's not, gorhill's
contributing.md indicates that he really does not want this kind of stuff on his issue tracker.
And we don't know that lakrsrool isn't using
https://github.com/chrisaljoudi/uBlock.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:38 pm
by lakrsrool
barbaz wrote:Splitting off to a new thread.
Are you using ublock or uBlock Origin?
uBlock Origin (sorry I didn't mention that before)
uBlock is the ONLY ad blocker that I know of that will block the obnoxious Yahoo ad below and is also compatible with
Pale Moon:
But then uBlock Origin has the problematic side-effects mentioned as well.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:44 pm
by barbaz
Open the uBlock Origin popup > Open the logger, then reload the page
This should tell you what filter(s) are at work, and allow you to make exception.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:55 pm
by lakrsrool
This is just the first of 3½ pages that are logged:
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How would I know what's what (that is what is it that has to do with what I want displayed and what not to display) and how would I create the exception?
I'm assuming you're using uBlock, do you have this issue? That is do you lose all the stuff at the top of the Yahoo page (see 1st post)? Do you get the imbedded ad in the Yahoo inbox blocked (see my last post, which I do but then I lose the other stuff)?
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:04 am
by barbaz
I'm not very good with using the logger. I'd have to trial-and-error as much as you.
I'm pretty new to uBlock Origin.
Try this custom "static" filter
If fixes the problem, remove that filter, and you know to look for logged entries of type "cosmetic", go from there.
If it doesn't please post screenshots of the logger, as copy+paste seems to have stripped away some useful information.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:06 am
by lakrsrool
It's as if Yahoo has purposely gone out of their way to incorporate the important UI stuff at the top of the email page with the embedded ad so that ad blockers that are successful at blocking the imbedded ad will also get the important user interface stuff blocked as well. Thus a way to avoid ad blockers attempt to block the obnoxious ad embedded in the Yahoo inbox.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:12 am
by lakrsrool
barbaz wrote:I'm not very good with using the logger. I'd have to trial-and-error as much as you.
I'm pretty new to uBlock Origin.
Try this custom "static" filter
If fixes the problem, remove that filter, and you know to look for logged entries of type "cosmetic", go from there.
If it doesn't please post screenshots of the logger, as copy+paste seems to have stripped away some useful information.
Within the logger and doing a "Find" in Pale Moon I don't find anything remotely similar to the above "@@||yahoo.com...." (I was taking parts of this for "Search" i.e. "@@", "elemhide" etc)
Do you use Yahoo mail?
If so what are you're results using uBlock?
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:18 am
by lakrsrool
My problem is that add-ons like "Yahoo Mail Hide Ad Panel" does work or "Webmail Ad blocker" (presumably) will work as far as blocking the ads in
Firefox including the embedded ad in the Yahoo inbox and will even expand to fill the empty space. The developers aren't interested in supporting
Pale Moon however, so I'm left with uBlock which doesn't expand to fill the empty space but does at least block all the ads, only problem i block requires stuff as well for some reason.
Since these other add-ons can accomplish what needs to be get done one would think uBlock could as well.
Now that I think about it, you probably use either FF or Chrome so you're results wouldn't apply to PM anyway.
I happen to know
Thrawn is a PM user however.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:20 am
by barbaz
No you wouldn't see it anywhere, I was suggesting adding it as a test for if it's a hiding filter causing the issue.
I don't use Yahoo Mail so can't make tests directly.
lakrsrool wrote:My problem is that add-ons like "Yahoo Mail Hide Ad Panel" does work or "Webmail Ad blocker" (presumably) will work as far as blocking the ads including the embedded ad in the Yahoo inbox and will even expand to fill the empty space. The developers aren't interested in supporting Pale Moon however, so I'm left with uBlock which doesn't expand to fill the empty space but does at least block all the ads, only problem i block requires stuff as well for some reason.
Since these other add-ons can accomplish what needs to be get done one would think uBlock could as well.
It is possible you might need a
surrogate script as well as additional uBlock Origin filter rule(s)?
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:21 am
by barbaz
lakrsrool wrote:Now that I think about it, you probably use either FF or Chrome so you're results wouldn't apply to PM anyway.
Nope
I actually use SeaMonkey.
(I only use Chromium for various testing purposes, never for normal browsing.)
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:27 am
by lakrsrool
Problem solved. All I needed to do is update to current uBlock 1.6.1
Yahoo email works great now, now uBlock is not blocking all the necessary UI stuff and still blocks all the adds including the obnoxious ad embedded in the inbox UI. And fortunately the Webmail Ad Blocker 4.25.1 (most recent still compatible with PM) add-on is also expanding the UI out to fill the blank spots where ads were to the top and left of the window.
So it all look good now. I was about to just leave off the UI stuff at the top as I really dislike how Yahoo is so obnoxious with this really sorry embedded ads in the actual inbox list.
Thanks for you time and all the help.
P.S. I personally really like the Pale Moon browser and find it very robust, safe and secure (miniscule issues I've had with other browsers do not occur in PM) and far more configurable than any other browser I've looked at and has great support to boot.
Re: ublock question
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:33 am
by barbaz
You're welcome
lakrsrool wrote:P.S. I personally really like the Pale Moon browser and find it very robust, safe and secure (miniscule issues I've had with other browsers do not occur in PM) and far more configurable than any other browser I've looked at
+1. Only reason I don't use Pale Moon regularly is because last I checked, it lacks support for certain webpage-facing features (e.g. Media Source Extensions) which are necessity with the sites I browse. Should it ever add support for that stuff, then I'd use it alongside SeaMonkey, maybe even replace SeaMonkey as my primary browser.