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Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:44 am
by Colin
In a nutshell, I'm rigged wrong on one machine and can't figure out how I got this to work on another machine.

Comparing configurations ain't helping squat either.

Simple setup: youtube is whitelisted, but ytimg is not. On my other machine, this forces a placeholder for the player. On this machine, I get a black box.

Probably something really stupid I'm overlooking too.

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:47 am
by barbaz
The placeholder machine getting the youtube flash player and the black box machine getting the youtube html5 player. blame youtube, not noscript or your browser setup.

EDIT Can you please make your next post from your other machine if possible, this could help us figure something out if you want help to make the two machines the same.

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:39 pm
by therube
I'm thinking different.

ytimg.com is required (it is, at least on Youtube itself, last time I looked).
And then on one machine you have NoScript | Options | Embedding -> Forbid Flash => Apply these restrictions to whitelisted sites too, enabled (or you have Flash set to "Ask" in FF's Addon Manager).

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:36 pm
by barbaz
therube wrote:ytimg.com is required (it is, at least on Youtube itself, last time I looked).
Look again ;)
It's not required for watching flash videos but it is required for everything else that needs scripts (this includes HTML5 videos).
I run with similar permissions as Colin said so unless it changed between last time I accessed YouTube and now... EDIT and it didn't.
therube wrote:And then on one machine you have NoScript | Options | Embedding -> Forbid Flash => Apply these restrictions to whitelisted sites too, enabled (or you have Flash set to "Ask" in FF's Addon Manager).
How would the lack of these settings explain a black box when he doesn't allow ytimg.com ?

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:40 pm
by therube
ytimg.com is required (it is, at least on Youtube itself, last time I looked).
Looks like it is not - at least for Flash.
(Can't check html5 ATM.)
youtube is whitelisted
Are you sure?

If youtube.com is not allowed, I get only a black box.

Maybe remove youtube.com from the whitelist, then add it back in.
Are you using 2nd level domain (youtube.com) or otherwise?

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:56 pm
by Colin
Post from the other machine, can't figure out where I stashed my login at here.

You might be on something in regards to the HTML5.

Looking at the whitelist on this machine it is strictly youtube.com

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:17 am
by barbaz
colinatothermachine wrote:Post from the other machine, can't figure out where I stashed my login at here.
Thanks and no problem about the login, I'll just put the above post under your account.
colinatothermachine wrote:You might be on something in regards to the HTML5.
Looks like in your case the only way to get it consistent is going to be to spoof this UA string (taken from your post):

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.0; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0
on the other machine, for youtube.com, ytimg.com, and googlevideo.com only. This should make YouTube use Flash on both your machines.
I don't know how to set per-site UA string overrides in Firefox though, sorry.

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:16 am
by therube
> ytimg.com is required (it is, at least on Youtube itself, last time I looked)

> Look again

HTML5, at least in my current setup, Youtube allowed, ytimg.com blocked, all I get is a black box (not a placeholder), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4CUvZF2YO8.

Allow ytimg, & the player & video then load & play.


Win7, SeaMonkey 2.38a1.

Re: Placeholder For Flash Objects Missing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:01 am
by barbaz
@therube: yep, that is all as expected :)