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Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:03 pm
by mmdmmd
I never thought I would get annoyed by any program updates. I mean they are for my own good after all. But flashgot is an exception. Every week or so, I start firefox up and get this annoying update popup, and worst of all, if I accept the update. It directs me to your website (which is another form of "popup" imho).

It's getting to the point of being so annoying that I have stop updating flashgot all together.
Please change this!

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:53 pm
by Giorgio Maone
Looking at the release history on AMO you can easily verify it's 15 days average, not 1 week nor 3 days.
Anyway please read this FAQ.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:30 am
by GµårÐïåñ
Giorgio may be too nice to say it, but I will. This is a security software and updates are a crucial part of its effectiveness, like any AV update that occurs constantly. It is not every 3 days and if the active support and update of a software (which is rare and a good thing) is too much for you, I humbly ask that you stop using it. Plus as stated already and available in the documentation already, you can disable that page load which occurs only for your own sake to notify you of the changes, which you so find annoying. Any reasonable person would be glad, not annoyed.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:02 pm
by mmdmmd
GµårÐïåñ wrote:Giorgio may be too nice to say it, but I will. This is a security software and updates are a crucial part of its effectiveness, like any AV update that occurs constantly. It is not every 3 days and if the active support and update of a software (which is rare and a good thing) is too much for you, I humbly ask that you stop using it. Plus as stated already and available in the documentation already, you can disable that page load which occurs only for your own sake to notify you of the changes, which you so find annoying. Any reasonable person would be glad, not annoyed.
I am simply voicing my opinion regarding the updates, there are quite a few other ppl annoyed by the updates if you spend sometime googling it.

Giorgio is doing it just right, you can't simply ask everyone who suggest something to "stop using it".

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:22 am
by GµårÐïåñ
No of course not, but if anyone has problems with updates intended to help THEM be safe, then they have a choice to be unhappy or stop using it. Although your opinion is valued as much as anyone who posts anything anywhere than can be Googled, the fact of the matter is that you can't suggest that a security stop being effective because some find it annoying? Especially that annoying is a matter of perspective and different to each person.

See what I am saying? So either be happy its being updated to keep you safe and use it or if you find that unacceptable stop using it, pretty much the only choices. No one is saying that if your opinion differs from the norm you should automatically stop using it, but that is the only real choice you have or set your FF to not autoupdate and manually check for updates when you feel like it. Now in the meantime something goes wrong, its on you.

Asking the developer to do a half ass job and not work towards developing it because you find it annoying is really not an option. Updates are released when necessary, needed or to address specific issues, not just because he has nothing better to do than to keep updating programs to annoy anyone. He is doing US ALL a favor, sharing his expertise, time and knowledge to help keep everyone safe, he does it for free and using his own resources, and to expect anything else is just plain rude frankly, opinion or not.

If the opinion has to do with something a certain way, basically a function request or something, or a change in how a current function is done, that's one thing and the developer has always been kind to take it under advisement but the developement and update cycle of a program is 100% at the discretion of the developer and is done when its appropriate and the only opinion that matters there is the developer, not yours, not mine, not anyone's frankly. Now before everyone thinks I am being mean, rough or any other adjective, I am being passionate, yes, but not mean or malicious. This to avoid going off topic and turning this into a fight or argument by anyone.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:33 pm
by mmdmmd
GµårÐïåñ wrote:So either be happy its being updated to keep you safe and use it or if you find that unacceptable stop using it, pretty much the only choices.

the developement and update cycle of a program is 100% at the discretion of the developer and is done when its appropriate and the only opinion that matters there is the developer, not yours, not mine, not anyone's frankly
There is only 2 solutions to this problem? You don't really have room for other ppl do you? And for your information, to a developer, everybody's opinion matters, including yours, mine, and everyone's frankly

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:29 pm
by Giorgio Maone
Sirs, please calm down.

The FAQ I originally linked contains suggestions we should make everybody happy, accommodating both the development cycle needs and mmdmmd's preferences.
mmdmmd wrote:to a developer, everybody's opinion matters, including yours, mine, and everyone's frankly
Absolutely true. However you started this thread with an hyperbole, not an opinion.

@GµårÐïåñ:
Sorry, I believe most of your arguments were meant for NoScript (which is updated about once a week and whose schedule is security driven), while this user came here for FlashGot (which is updated about twice a month and is feature / site support driven). Either way, no need to bash him, hyperboles or not.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:22 pm
by GµårÐïåñ
Giorgio Maone wrote: @GµårÐïåñ:
Sorry, I believe most of your arguments were meant for NoScript (which is updated about once a week and whose schedule is security driven), while this user came here for FlashGot (which is updated about twice a month and is feature / site support driven). Either way, no need to bash him, hyperboles or not.
Out of respect, I will simply yes sir and drop it but I was not bashing, I was simply pointing out the hyperbole if you will. :|

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:04 am
by Mr. Krinkle
This firefox add-on is brilliant and i use it frequently. The fact that it is updated regularly is excellent and shows there is constant development towards improvements, as well as new features kept up to date with circumventing different methods of embedding flash videos.

When such new features are available i like to have them and be notified. This tool is very valuable to me and i appreciate all the work that goes into this software.

Remarks about software being updated to often is very disrespectful, turn your automatic updates off and just update manually if you feel this way.

Developing software takes time.

Thank You very much to everyone's efforts in making FlashGot the very useful piece of software it is today.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:57 pm
by Tom T.
Mr. Krinkle, thank you for your support. All opinions are welcome here; we ask only that they be posted in good faith and in a courteous or civil manner.
Giorgio donates hundreds or thousands of hours of his own time to produce these freeware products, accommodating not only security needs but also the many feature requests or bug reports received, for which this forum is the venue. The OP has been provided with many options to accommodate his wishes, including disabling auto-update. Let us all put this behind us and continue to help Giorgio to produce the most outstanding software of which he is so capable.
Warmest regards to all, Tom T. (Moderator)

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days (suggestion)

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:08 pm
by Anon
What about an option in the menu to either enable/disable (by checkbox {default on}) or change the interval (checkbox then dropdown or text enter) and an option for displaying the release notes webpage (checkbox {default on})? That would settle down the complainers and leave an option out there for those that don't really want it. I personally haven't used this program (yet) but I would still like to leave a little suggestion. I figure this would be helpful, that's the only reason I suggest it.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days (suggestion)

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:21 pm
by Giorgio Maone
Anon wrote:What about an option in the menu to either enable/disable (by checkbox {default on})
NoScript Options|Notifications|Display the release notes on updates, see FAQ 2.5.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:31 pm
by therube
The addons update check is a FF mechanism, so an extension has no bearing on the "interval" (other then when an update is put out, it is then there to be found).

There is already an option (& now a GUI option too) to show the release notes on update.

Re: Please, stop updating the addon every 3 days

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:47 pm
by Anon
Oh, I should've figured that you made that possible already. Like I said, I don't have it yet and I just wanted to voice a suggestion. But me not knowing was due to my laziness and ignorance. Thanks for replying though.