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YouTube: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:42 am
by intheflesh
Example video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXX4alAEzF4

When I try to download the large WEBM I get a video like this:

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Medium is OK (but not always!; sometimes like above; inconsistent)

Firefox setup: latest, with factory settings, only FlashGot is added.

By the way, I am not sure if I should prefer the WEBM or MP4 or whatever downloads if I can choose?

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:42 pm
by therube
Downloaded Large WEBM.

Would not play in MPLayer, no display at all.
"Played" in VLC & MPC-BC, looking like your screenshot.

Played correctly in Media Player Classic.

So it looks to be codec/player settings that will make the difference.
Most likely it will play in any of the mentioned players - if set up to handle the specific requirements of that (or similar) clips.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:02 am
by intheflesh
I think my VLC is fine, the issues are different.

Sometimes the file I download is smaller (another example, from whichever video), say: 90 MB - and it does not play. When I restart Firefox, download the same video again it turns out to be 220 MB. and it plays in VLC.

It's not only about playing in VLC or not; I use to demux the OGG from WEBM files. When it does not play in VLC, I can't demux; when it plays in VLC I can demux as well; you get the idea.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:49 am
by therube
In my case, it sure looks to be codec/settings.

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> Sometimes the file I download is smaller (another example, from whichever video), say: 90 MB - and it does not play.
> When I restart Firefox, download the same video again it turns out to be 220 MB. and it plays in VLC.

That sounds like a different issue.
What download manager are you using (or browser built-in)?

What does FlashGot say the download size should be?
Does it always say 220 yet sometimes you get 90?
If so, that seems like a download issue to me.
If it says 90 sometimes & 220 others, that would be different.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:02 pm
by intheflesh
therube wrote: That sounds like a different issue.
What download manager are you using (or browser built-in)?

What does FlashGot say the download size should be?
Does it always say 220 yet sometimes you get 90?
If so, that seems like a download issue to me.
If it says 90 sometimes & 220 others, that would be different.
I use stock Firefox; no external manager.

My FlashGot does not say what the download size should be; though i remember earlier versions did; Not sure where can i see it in latest version.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:11 pm
by intheflesh
Sorry for bumping; this one is quite annoying for me. I ask if you have the same issue as well or only me? I can't believe you don't download YouTube videos. ) Thank you.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:18 pm
by therube
> FlashGot does not say what the download size should be

FlashGot Media (icon) does show the sizes for me.

> What media player are you using?

VLC does not work (unless you consider "working" to be as your screenshot shows).

Download MPC-HC & see if that plays the clip for you.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:04 am
by intheflesh
OFF

Ooops, something in your posting triggered my antispam filter...
Please use the "Back" button to modify your content and retry.


And it lost all my content I wrote. Thank you, that's it for this project for today. :(

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:17 am
by intheflesh
The main issue - regardless of my video player (I need the extracted .ogg audio most of the time anyways)

Consider this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJsSMT0GEiY

With stock Firefox with only FlashGot added, no other tweaks, considering the medium.webm video downloads, once I get a 6 Mb file, the other time a 12 Mb file. Why?

Here I wanted to include the direct links to both files respectively, but the spam filter got them. How to proceed?

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:13 am
by Thrawn
You can either break the links, eg by removing the protocols, or you can send them to a moderator to post for you.

Sorry you're having so much trouble, but the filter is important...

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:20 pm
by therube
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJsSMT0GEiY

> considering the medium.webm video downloads, once I get a 6 Mb file, the other time a 12 Mb file. Why?

There are both "Dash" & Non-dash varieties of the clips.

Dash have audio & video separately, & if you wanted both, you would have to download both. And if you wanted them to play "together" (as in the clip playing both the audio & video) you would have to join ("mux") them together.

Non-dash are a single clip containing both the audio & video.

Non-dash, webm, medium, is 12 MB, containing audio & video in the one clip.

Dash, video/webm, medium, is 6 MB, containing only the video.
If you also wanted the audio, you would have to download, separately, audio/webm, medium, 3 MB.
And if you wanted the to play "together", like the non-dash, you would have to mux them together.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:10 pm
by intheflesh
Sorry. This is very annoying. I wrote a post, simple Youtube and image hyperlinks, got caught by antispam filter, pressed the back button, the whole post disappeared. :(

Other forums are set up not to disappear my whole post when I press the back button to edit; can you fix at least that?

OK, who is the moderator and what is her direct link I am supposed to PM all my future posts for convenience in the future?

Thank you

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:25 pm
by therube
pressed the back button, the whole post disappeared
You or I or anyone can start a separate thread on that.
I was about to the other day, but never did get to it.

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:34 pm
by intheflesh
@Thrawn:

You suggested to PM my post to a moderator so she can post it with links. For example, could you tell me the exact nick of such a mod I could try? Thanks

Re: Inconsistent WEBM downloads (Medium only)

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:19 pm
by therube
You could try Thrawn or myself ;-).

You could try (& I wouldn't know if it would work or not, but...):

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setting the "Do not automatically parse URLs" option (just below the Submit button)
breaking links:  "http:  www.google.com"

(I actually ran into one hyperlink yesterday that I wanted to post that automatically reverted to "text"... but I didn't look to see why that may have happened?)