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EASY way to copy/paste blocked domain into Google or WhoIs?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:35 am
by freethinker
In searching before posting this, I saw that about 2.5 years ago a member named "noscuser" made a wise suggestion:
it would be nice if (NoScript) had a clean way of handing off a web site to other tools that are focused on researching what a site is (anything from a general search engine, to a whois, to the various rating sites (WOT, Site Adviser, Safe Web, etc.), possibly create a new forum/rating system for scripting sites (to indicate what scripting site does and will the using site work without the third party scripting site). First steps in that direction would be a way to copy site information from NoScript, so one could paste it into search bar or into another tool.
Apparently that very user-friendly option has yet to be added or perhaps I'm overlooking it? WHY can't we at least COPY the name of a blocked site, or better yet, right click and send it directly to google or a whois (our choice) for enlightenment?? FWIW, this is different (and simpler, I should think) than the suggestion to hook up with WOT. Personally, I've never been fond of all the false positives that site is reputed to give.

As it is, I am very tired of facing an evergrowing list of blocked, unfamiliar (or often forgotten) cryptic sites that disappears as soon as I move the cursor. I know some malevolent dataminers by heart (e.g., doubleclick) but why must I MANUALLY type each site into whois or google to see if it's an ad server or perhaps an integral part of a web site that's crippled if I don't tell NoScript to at least temporarily let it pass? That's unfriendly enough for a modern GUI but worse is that the list of blocked sites disappears as soon as I lift the bloody cursor. This often means bouncing back and forth between filling in the search line on google and REopening the list by hovering over the S to confirm spelling, and I'm telling you this is NOT the recipe for a low blood pressure reading. :evil:

Speaking of annoyances, why can't we compartmentalize NoScript to work within just ONE browser window or tab? I usually have 20+ browser windows open, and if I absolutely and reluctantly have to give temp permission to a dataminer to get into a site on window "21", it means all my other windows reset, often meaning unwanted/paused videos start blaring again, or perhaps losing data stored in an unsubmitted input form, and I presume that said dataminer has then stuck its nose into all the other windows where it has no business sniffing.

Re: EASY way to copy/paste blocked domain into Google or Who

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:40 am
by Thrawn
freethinker wrote:WHY can't we at least COPY the name of a blocked site, or better yet, right click and send it directly to google or a whois (our choice) for enlightenment?? FWIW, this is different (and simpler, I should think) than the suggestion to hook up with WOT. Personally, I've never been fond of all the false positives that site is reputed to give.
Mostly I think that Giorgio has had higher development priorities: NoScript 3, NoScript for Chrome, NoScript for the Android-native interface, along with continual bugfixes etc.

And although the various site-review tools that you mention are good, don't forget Giorgio's official definition of a trusted site, which is something else.
Speaking of annoyances, why can't we compartmentalize NoScript to work within just ONE browser window or tab? I usually have 20+ browser windows open, and if I absolutely and reluctantly have to give temp permission to a dataminer to get into a site on window "21", it means all my other windows reset, often meaning unwanted/paused videos start blaring again, or perhaps losing data stored in an unsubmitted input form, and I presume that said dataminer has then stuck its nose into all the other windows where it has no business sniffing.
Please bear in mind that NoScript is primarily a security tool, not an ad blocker. If you trust that a particular script will not harm your computer, then NoScript is happy to let it run in all tabs. If you don't have that trust, then you shouldn't let it run at all. If you have other reasons for wanting to selectively block it - like preventing data-mining - then Adblock Plus works very well for this job.

Re: EASY way to copy/paste blocked domain into Google or Who

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:49 pm
by Giorgio Maone
  1. Right click on an "Allow" or "Forbid" command: copy the site entry to the clipboard.
  2. Middle click or shift+left click: send the entry to an information-gathering page, customizable through the noscript.siteInfoProvider about:config preference

Re: EASY way to copy/paste blocked domain into Google or Who

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:31 pm
by therube
I usually have 20+ browser windows open, and if I absolutely and reluctantly have to give temp permission to a dataminer to get into a site on window "21", it means all my other windows reset, often meaning unwanted/paused videos start blaring again...
5.2 Q: When I change permissions, all the affected tabs/windows are reloaded, and sometimes this is annoying. I know I could turn off automatic reloading from NoScript Options|General, but can I disable it for background tabs/windows but keep it for the current tab only?

Re: EASY way to copy/paste blocked domain into Google or Who

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:38 pm
by freethinker
@Giorgio, thanks for that unusual workaround, I'd never have found that page. Will insert a few info providers into the about:config and if they launch as easily as the ones you've provided, it'll be the perfect solution to my issue.

@ The Rube - Many thanks for pointing me toward a possible solution to part 2 of my nattering nabobism. Suspected there might be way but there's just never enough time to become familiar with all the software I'm pretending to know how to use.

@Thrawn, no newbie here, am familiar with AdblockerPlus. Sadly, there are currently approx. 79 items on my wish list or clamoring for extremely limited funds, from big software vendors who think everyone is made of money and can easily pay for every upgrade, to utilities from creative and generous independents who deserve far more support than they get for making PC life simpler or more tolerable. It's not so much a question of whether these cryptic sites are "trustworthy" so much as whether I want the bloody things tracking me and making money off me by selling the results of their little trend analyses to others. I don't unless absolutely necessary, and if I've gone to the trouble of selectively blocking one from 20 browser windows I hate to see that trashed if I allow one to access window 21. (hopefully now solved by The Rube's comment) With my short term memory and a growing list of cryptic sites trying to deposit cookies, I'm spending way too much time hunt&pecking site names into search engines to see if results turn up a word like adserver or show it's a benign child site of the parent site. As NoScript is the front line interceptor and gatekeeper, it's where I saw a real need for a 1-button pass-thru to a 3rd party search engine that can say WHAT the website is all about, not whether it's "trustworthy." Really happy to see that Giorgio is on top of this.