Get Flash instead of placeholder on untrusted sites

[Grumpy Old Lady]

A couple of examples from recent threads here:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/51514777.html
http://www.hoovers.com/free/

1.9.6.94
With main domain forbidden, there is an instance on each page of a "Get Flash" type of placeholder that NS isn't enumerating in the blocked objects. (and of course not making a placeholder for)

Allowing main domain with blocking plugins on trusted gives a placeholder as normal.

I can't remember this behaviour in other sites, but then I don't get around much.
It seems to me that the novice NS user may be confused by this.

[Alan Baxter]

If I recall correctly, I often don't get a placeholder until I Allow the main domain. I block plugins on trusted sites.

[therube]

That's kind of what I never understood.
(Nonetheless, it never really bothered me one way or the other.)

But I go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL9-D-Hp2GI, I expect & always see ...
"Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player."




And when I go to Amazon Music, I do not Allow Amazon, yet I still expect (& do) ALWAYS see the Flash placeholder.


Yet when I go to http://www.hoovers.com/free/, one, but not both Flash objects are enumerated.

Now on some sites you may visit, there is Flash, yet there is no obvious (to me) indication that Flash exists at all. And in those instances it is easy to miss.

Now Giorgio said something about hidden...

[Grumpy Old Lady]

Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.

That's the message I usually see if there's no NS placeholder. May be because I don't get around to seeing much more than multimedia stuff on highly popular sites such as youtube, I don't see much of any other kind of placeholder?
It is helpful in that it gives a NS novice the right pointer by specifically nominating JS along with Flash plugin operation. So our NS novice (who has the default plugins blocked for untrusted only) toggles NS before getting sidetracked into considerations of Flash, or worse still, trying to get a new Flash install when it's already ok.

With the example on the 1001 dalmations site, the novice will possibly be getting sidetracked about Flash installs before even trying to allow the main domain.

But if it's hidden, as you say, from NS in the unallowed state, then that's the end of it.
With any luck, so many will be using NS that this will become one of those little annoyances that everybody can share virally :-) Like not being able to freely use the clipboard in Win Explorer ;-/