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Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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As is so often the case a website changed and stopped working, so I had to start disabling add-ons to determine what needed to be changed to get the site to work again as is way too often the case.

Coming to NoScript I wanted to disable, but was given the choice to not disable but to disable only the scripts (or whatever it says). What this does is give me the "exclamation" over the NoScript Icon and and all sites are displayed different than before.

Please, I haven't got a long enough life to keep spending so much time figuring out how to make websites work and also to try and figure out how to get NoScript back the way it was before.

How do I get the NoScript add-on back to "NORMAL"? (how it was before I did whatever I did to disable whatever I disabled in NoScript)

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I sure wish we could just do away with all idiots that want to destroy lives by messing with people so we wouldn't have to put up with all these myriad levels of security all the time just to use the Internet!!!!
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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OK, I've found that I have to completely disable NoScript to get this website to work (realtor.com).

If I then enable NoScript and I found by enabling "Forbid Scripts Globally" I get rid of the "exclamation" I was asking about. But NoScript still does not act in the manner it did before. I do not see a list of all the sites (as I did before of which there were many listed) and of course I do not see how I can temporarily allow sites since they are no longer listed. I see what appears to be a little red star over the NoScript icon (it maybe something else but that's what it appears to be) instead of what I used to see before which was a circle with a line through it over the NoScript icon (telling the user some or all sites are blocked).

So I still do not have NoScript behaving the way it did before and for some reason I'm unable to even use this website without totally disabling NoScript (of course I have other security add-ons disabled at this time so who knows what will happen when they are enabled). What a world, we have to put up with all of this and spend hours of our lives just to try and stay safe!!!!

I need advise please as far as how to undo whatever has been done when I started to disable NoScript but then elected to select what I think was only blocking scripts if I'm correct in saying this is the preferred option users are offered to do when a user selected "disable" for the NoScript add-on.

NoScript needs to make it clear how to undo this setting I got myself into by not totally disabling NoScript as recommended by NoScript at the time.

Can someone explain in Englilsh exactly what the "Reset" button does in NoScript?

I get the message: "ALL the NoScript preferences and site permissions will be reset to their default values immediately.
This action cannot be reverted.
Do you want to continue?"

Does this mean all the setting for all the sites that I've taken years to establish will get reset back to zero so to speak. If that's the case I'm not sure why anyone would want to do this.
All I want to do is get NoScript to behave in the same manner as it did before I started troubleshooting add-ons to determine which add-on is screwing with this realtor.com site. I know that in safe-mode (no add-ons) the site works and I've found that disabling NoScript altogether allows the site to work. If I could ever get back to where NoScript lists the different sites that this website uses I used to have the option to disable I would be able to do further testing and then finally go on to all the other add-ons to finally figure out everything that needs to be done to get the darn site to just work like it used to.
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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lakrsrool wrote: I see what appears to be a little red star over the NoScript icon (it maybe something else but that's what it appears to be)
Eh??? Image
I didn't even know that was possible. Screenshot please?


As for the rest, I would suggest you just restore a backup of your entire profile from before this all started.

If you don't have a backup, please export your NoScript settings as well as a separate export of the NoScript whitelist & blacklist. (NoScript Options > Whitelist, use BOTH export buttons and save each configuration separately) Then do a NoScript reset, delete all non-mandatory items from the default whitelist, import your whitelist, go through the GUI options of NoScript and configure it how you'd like, and let us know if there's anything else you'd like to recover from your old configuration.
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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What I've done is a "preferences" restore via FEBE which fixed the issue with NoScript and since NoScript is fixed determined what needed to be allowed in NoScript for the website out of the process of elimination.

This is what led to my problems: I started disabling add-ons to determine what was causing a website to not work (safe-mode worked so it had to be one or more add-ons) but when I got to NoScript I got the following prompt:
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I selected "No just stop blocking scripts", thinking this would be the safer option to take.

After doing this I got stuck seeing the following in NoScript:
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The icon has what appears to be a "red star" and from that point on no matter what I did (disable/enable) in NoScript I get this shortened list instead of what I should get which is this: Image

So what should I do in the future when I want to disable NoScript? (which option should I use that is displayed in the top image?)

I had tried "allowing" everything before trying to disable NoScript (along with disabling all the other add-ons) but that didn't help at the time as the website still failed to work with all sites "allowed" in NoScript (possibly another add-on was causing a problem, probably uMatrix which I'll look into following this post)
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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The short answer is simply to Forbid Scripts Globally.

However, your screenshot of the shorter menu seems to imply that scripts are not globally allowed.

Have you enabled Options-Advanced-Trusted-"Cascade top-level document's permissions to third-party scripts"?
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All I had done initially is select the option "No just stop blocking scripts". After doing this I got what you see in the second image posted, except that trying to get NoScript back to what I wanted (like it was before) I changed the setting to "Disable Scripts Globally" (like you see in the image) thinking this would help, but the website list displayed didn't change however (I got essentially the same virtually non-existent list).
Have you enabled Options-Advanced-Trusted-"Cascade top-level document's permissions to third-party scripts"?
I have no idea what this is so of course did not enable anything as described above. Going to that setting I have nothing checked on that page.

Restoring the prefs to a previous backup is the only thing that allowed me to return to what I expect to see in NoScript.

I would like to avoid this happening again, so it is better to not select the presumably safer choice "No just stop blocking scripts" and instead select "Disable ALL protection"? (I would have thought the first choice I made would have been the better one) :?: :?
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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lakrsrool wrote:
Can someone explain in English exactly what the "Reset" button does in NoScript?

I get the message: "ALL the NoScript preferences and site permissions will be reset to their default values immediately.
This action cannot be reverted.
Do you want to continue?"

Does this mean all the settings for all the sites that I've taken years to establish will get reset back to zero so to speak. If that's the case I'm not sure why anyone would want to do this.
By the way, does anyone have an answer to my previously asked question (above) :?:

Thanks in advance. :D
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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lakrsrool wrote:All I had done initially is select the option "No just stop blocking scripts".
That enables 'Scripts Globally Allowed'.
After doing this I got what you see in the second image posted, except that trying to get NoScript back to what I wanted (like it was before) I changed the setting to "Disable Scripts Globally" (like you see in the image) thinking this would help, but the website list displayed didn't change however (I got essentially the same virtually non-existent list).
It's definitely odd. Something strange might be going in your profile, or your preferences.
I would like to avoid this happening again, so it is better to not select the presumably safer choice "No just stop blocking scripts" and instead select "Disable ALL protection"? (I would have thought the first choice I made would have been the better one) :?: :?
It shouldn't have done that, and if you can consistently reproduce it, then please let Giorgio know about it.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't start with disabling NoScript. First take a look at which sites are allowed, and look in the Browser Console to see if there are any messages from NoScript. If you really want to start disabling addons, try creating a new blank profile instead, and adding things to it one by one until the site breaks. That way, you don't risk anything in your existing profile.
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Re: Get NoScript back to not showing exclamation!

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lakrsrool wrote:The icon has what appears to be a "red star"
The "red star" is supposed to be a jigsaw puzzle piece and is the indicator that there are blocked objects
lakrsrool wrote:
lakrsrool wrote:
Can someone explain in English exactly what the "Reset" button does in NoScript?

I get the message: "ALL the NoScript preferences and site permissions will be reset to their default values immediately.
This action cannot be reverted.
Do you want to continue?"

Does this mean all the settings for all the sites that I've taken years to establish will get reset back to zero so to speak. If that's the case I'm not sure why anyone would want to do this.
By the way, does anyone have an answer to my previously asked question (above) :?:

Thanks in advance. :D
Oh, sorry about that. You seem to understand the "Reset" button perfectly. It's not that someone would want to do it, rather that someone might *have* to do it for troubleshooting or fixing preferences corruption.
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