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dhouwn
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Re: Status Bar Message

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andyman wrote:A question: why does toggling the about:config entry "noscript.statusLabel" from FALSE to TRUE not having any effect?
I guess because as the status label has been removed it serves no purpose any more.
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Theodore Bungee-Smythe

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No status bar message makes me a sad panda.
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Diego

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Post by Diego »

GOOD ! Thank you so much.

I'm sure we are a lot to appreciate that ....

regarding with big eyes the next .... build !
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Theodore Bungee-Smythe

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Post by Theodore Bungee-Smythe »

Thanks for the quick action!
I was so inspired that I went and donated 10 EUR !
Much happier panda now.
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Re: Status Bar Message

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Thank you very much, Giorgio :D
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Thank you very much for bringing the status bar back!
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Alhanalem

Re: Status Bar Message

Post by Alhanalem »

Why in the world is the status bar being removed from firefox in the first place?
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dhouwn
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Re: Status Bar Message

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To do it the Google Chrome way and reduce the size of the interface.
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Alhanalem

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Post by Alhanalem »

Well, why remove it entirely? Why not leave it as an option, and for add-on compatbility's sake?
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Re: Status Bar Message

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Well, they wanted to remove the status messages in the first place:
Paul [sabret00the] @ bug 628654 comment 27 wrote:Let's first and foremost be clear that we don't _NEED_ to show status messages.
It was the goal of a paid and qualified team to define a direction for this
product and one of the directions for that product which this team created and
I can only assume were professional enough to flesh out before presenting was
to remove the status messages.
And without status messages it was no status bar anymore.
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Alhanalem

Re: Status Bar Message

Post by Alhanalem »

That logic... it's just silly.

For one- whether or not a feature is "needed" does not say whether or not it is *desired* - hence why the feature requested in this thread was restored.
Second, the status bar is extremely helpful to more adept users. When you mouse over a link for instance, the true destination of the link is shown in the status bar- this makes it all the more easy to identify phishing attempts, especially in email, where scammers will have a link that looks like a plain URL but actually goes somewhere completely different.

It just sounds to me like they're just trying to dumb things down to remain attractive against simplified browsers like chrome. What software creators view as what novice users will appriciate is being more and more favored over what is beneficial to advanced users.
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AnonymousCoward

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Post by AnonymousCoward »

The web is commerce.
Users are the product these days and advertising is the customer.
Mobile is where most development is concentrated, and mobile interfaces are simplified icon-pointy for small displays.
Firefox is a commercial concern and is driven to concentrate on icon style mobile interface development.
Why would they want to buck the system for the minority of 'adept' users of desktops?

There will be an extension for those of us who actually want real-time feedback.
That is, of course, as long as Firefox Corp allows full monkey-patching capacity to remain.
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melbourne

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dhouwn wrote:Well, they wanted to remove the status messages in the first place:
Paul [sabret00the] @ bug 628654 comment 27 wrote:Let's first and foremost be clear that we don't _NEED_ to show status messages.
It was the goal of a paid and qualified team to define a direction for this
product and one of the directions for that product which this team created and
I can only assume were professional enough to flesh out before presenting was
to remove the status messages.
And without status messages it was no status bar anymore.
I use the mozilla status bar to moniter status, required because of the long-standing Firefox bug which prevents the status going to 'done' after downloading variable-length content. I assume that they intend to replace the messages with some kind of dynamic icon which is meaningless in every supported language, but I don't think that is an improvement.
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Re: Status Bar Message

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There is a law of human interface called Fitts' Law which states that speed of target acquisition (landing a mouse pointer on it) is based on proximity to the target, and size of the target. Larger target is easier to hit, so it's faster. If the real estate is not otherwise in use, I'm gonna enable the largest target I can! Thanks for putting it back in, and especially to the link to this forum on the update page.

This is the best intro I can give you, it's how I learned of Fitts' Law. Bruce Tognazzini was an early Apple employee, and he has some very keen insights into human-machine interaction.
http://www.asktog.com/columns/022Design ... Fitts.html

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Guest wrote:I'm a fan too of the message in the statusbar
# It took too much space statically, for the value it gave
Thats the most valuable feature of the status bar message.
You don't have to click the small noscript icon in the statusbar too enable some of the scripts, but can click on the whole message.
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