[RESOLVED] can't install in Seamonkey-1.1.18, error: 215

[xlator]

I get the dreaded Error 215 "You don't have permission...", when trying to install the stable version of Noscript in Seamonkey-1.1.18, as a normal user.
I tried the "fix" in the FAQ, that is, installing first as root (that works), then installing as normal user. I receive the error when installing as a normal user after installing as root. Note: the root installation installs in usr/local/seamonkey, while the normal installation tries, I believe, to install in the users personal directory, in the /home/user-xyz/.mozilla hierarchy.

I've been using noscript for a few years, and I would greatly like to continue using it. Is there another workaround?

Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me.

[Giorgio Maone]

You don't need to install it as a normal user anymore.
By default NoScript get installed globally now. This means that every time you install it you need write permissions on the program directory, but you don't need to reinstall it on each profile.

[xlator]

Thanks for the kind response, but something is definitely wrong:

When I start Seamonkey as root, Noscript is running (icon in the lower right corner of the browser screen).
When I start Seaminkey as a normal user, Noscript is NOT running.

What might I need to do to be able to have Noscript protect me us a normal user?

Thanks in advance.

[Tom T.]

When I start Seamonkey as root, Noscript is running (icon in the lower right corner of the browser screen).
When I start Seaminkey as a normal user, Noscript is NOT running.

Pardon me for stating the obvious, but the fact that the icon is not in the lower right does not mean NS is not running. NS Options > Appearance > Show ... (checkbox) Status bar icon. So perhaps this is unchecked in your normal user profile. The question is, does it show in the browser's top bar, and does it block things? Test it at some site and see whether it's blocking things as it should.

Forgive me for intruding if this is not the problem, but the statement that "NS isn't running because the (optional) lower right icon (status bar icon) didn't show" caught my eye.

[xlator]

Thanks for "intruding" and pointing out that NS need not show it's icon in the lower right corner. BUT...

I checked, and stuff is NOT being blocked as normal user and IS being blocked as root, so I'm still stuck here.

What the heck have I done wrong?

Thanks, anyone?

[Tom T.]

I get the dreaded Error 215 "You don't have permission...", when trying to install the stable version of Noscript in Seamonkey-1.1.18, as a normal user.
I tried the "fix" in the FAQ, that is, installing first as root (that works), then installing as normal user. I receive the error when installing as a normal user after installing as root. Note: the root installation installs in usr/local/seamonkey, while the normal installation tries, I believe, to install in the users personal directory, in the /home/user-xyz/.mozilla hierarchy.

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Thanks for confirming that it's an actual failure of NS and not just an icon issue.

First, let me say that I'm not a SM user or support member; I normally do support only for NoScript on Firefox. But in the interests of fastest possible response, permit me to point out a discrepancy or two just from the FAQ. If none of this helps, then please wait for Giorgio, or for long-time SM user and support team member therube, to investigate further. Thanks.

I tried the "fix" in the FAQ, that is, installing first as root (that works), then installing as normal user.

FAQ 3.5:

Install NoScript first as an unprivileged user; when you get the PARTIAL INSTALLATION warning, restart SeaMonkey as root/Administrator and install the package again.

It looks like you've got it backwards. The fix was: install as unprivileged first, then re-install as root. You installed as root first. Perhaps try this again?
FAQ:

Alternatively, you can install a local copy of mozilla in your home directory and use it. In this case, you can install the extension just once as an unprivileged user because you have write access to the install directory.

Have you tried this?

Again, apologies if this isn't the right avenue, and for merely quoting FAQ without knowledge of the product. If it isn't fixed, or if you haven't received a response from a SM-knowledgeable troubleshooter within a day or so, I'll flag it for their attention. Thanks for your patience.

[xlator]

Thank you very much for your kind interest in this frustrating matter.

Yes, I read that portion of the FAQ. The reason I read it at all is because I got that error (215: You don't have privilege...) when first trying to install as a NORMAL user.

So I did the next FAQ-suggested step: install as root. Still no NS for the normal user.

So I think that I did indeed do as the FAQ suggested. And now I am quite confused by the discrepancy of the FAQ with what Georgio wrote in the first response to my initial post: i.e.:

"You don't need to install it as a normal user anymore.
By default NoScript get installed globally now. This means that every time you install it you need write permissions on the program directory, but you don't need to reinstall it on each profile."

Hmmm, maybe I should now DELETE any remnant of NS in the user profile, and then it would work? But I'm afraid I'm not sure which file(s) to delete out of the user profile, so I don't want to slash and burn in there until I know what I'm doing.

I should have mentioned more clearly that I have been using NS through several versions of Seamonkey (and several versions of NS). In each case of upgrading Seamonkey, the existing NS installation broke, and I had to reinstall NS, working around an installation error each time using help forums (and then forgetting the fix, because of the time lag between Seamonkey upgrades). I vaguely recall at one time the "fix" was to delete noscript.jar from a certain directly, then reinstall NS. (I think) I even tried that this time to no avail.

So, the existing NS installation broke and wouldn't reinstall for a normal user a few days ago, when I upgraded to the latest Seamoneky mentioned in the heading. As experience has trained me, I tried to download the current NS from the Seamonkey Add-on page at the mozilla site. And the failure of that new NS installation is what brings me here now, hat in hand, begging for help.

And no, I haven't tried installing Seamonkey in the profile of the normal user, because I really don't want it there. I very much prefer to have it in the central install location, /usr/local/seamonkey, and experience with previous versions of both SM and NS has shown that can (or has been able to) work

Thanks again in advance for any kind advice or escalation.

[Giorgio Maone]

Your situation is quite strange and unusual.
FAQ 3.5 was obsolete (I just updated it), as recent NoScript versions always install in global mode (you need to be root, for this) and try to remove previous profile-level installations automatically.
Could you try to erase your current SeaMonkey installation, then reinstall it and be sure the SeaMonkey you can see as root is the very same as the one you can see as an unprivileged user (maybe you've got two separate installations)?

[Tom T.]

FAQ 3.5 was obsolete (I just updated it)

Well, some good has come out of it already. I'm sorry that I gave the OP advice from an obsolete FAQ, but thanks for updating it.

I was going to notify you of this issue anyway if it weren't fixed by today. Thanks for catching it.

[xlator]

Thank again again for your suggestion.

On my pc seamonkey installs into /usr/local/seamonkey. As root, I removed that directory from the system. Tried to sun SM as normal user, clicking an icon on the Gnome toolbar, and it wouldn't run (that's good, it means I did indeed remove SM).

I downloaded seamonkey-1.1.18 (can't yet run SM-2.0, wrong version of GTK), installed it as root, launched it, surfed to the mozilla-seamonkey site, installed NS 1.9.9.14 as an add-on to SM, quit SM, re-launched SM, and NS is there, working away.

Then I quit SM as root. Launched it as a normal user (clicking icon as mentioned above) -- and there is no NS! I surfed to a site with some scripting, and the scripts run, thus verifying NS is not running (those same scripts do NOT run when I surf there as root).

Note,. when I "deleted" SM from my system, I did NOT delete anything out of the profile hierarchy for the normal user, i.e., I did not delete anything out of the .mozilla hierarchy in that profile, becuase that's where a lot of good stuff is kept like address book, bookmarks, and other settings.

Can you suggest anything else I might try to be able to use NS with this version of SM?

Thanks again very much, for suggestions.

[therube]

See if anything here may have some relevance, Installation failure on SeaMonkey (Linux).

[xlator]

Yes, I noticed and wondered about those rather odd permission masks (r--r--r--), too, but I wasn't clever enough to think through the problem and solution. Yes, I'm using the word "solution", because changing the permissions as follows DID WORK for me too: (I repeat them here for future reference, noting that "/usr/local/seamonkey" is the install directory I chose for seamonkey on my Debian Linux box):

# chmod 644 /usr/local/seamonkey/chrome/noscript.jar
# chmod 644 /usr/local/seamonkey/components/noscriptService.js
# chmod 644 /usr/local/seamonkey/defaults/pref/noscript.js

One might wonder how the permissions get set that way (r--r--r--) on a clean install, but for now, I'll now visit my normal sites, happy to have Flash and other nuisances and nocives blocked by NS.

THANK YOU, T H A N K Y O U, to all that made suggestions. I'm sorry to have taken up time and bandwidth on what turns out to have been a very simple problem.

[therube]

No problem. Still might be an issue that needs to be looked at in the packaging of the extensions for Linux users.