pirlouy wrote:Like I said, EasyList goes in the wrong direction. I hoped it would be a list to block annoying ads. But now, it's a game with the aim to block every ads. This way has no future to me.
GµårÐïåñ wrote:Yes, I believe that adblocking solutions should aim to be broad spectrum and aim to block majority using logical patterns and not aim directly for sites unless its a matter of cleanup or element hiding. I feel conflicted now, there was a time Adblock Plus was a good solution and it still is for me to create my own rules but the lists are going in a wrong direction I think and Rick would be the first to say that its wrong to make it personal.
Every time I've mentioned AdBlock Original, which *cannot* accept subscriptions, someone tells me how out-of-date I am not to use ABP. I stand on my position to create my own choices on ad-blocking and *never* to substitute anyone's else decisions for my own. If I didn't want control over my own machine, why would I be using NS?
ABO avoids this whole discussion and controversy.
therube wrote:So I guess we should adblock Google & Mozilla & SeaMonkey & while we're at it, every other site in the world. Then we can start paying directly for these & all other services, rather then indirectly as we now do.
It's your choice, but I'd like to point out that you
make a considerable contribution to NS (and, I believe, to other MZ-related fora) by providing a large quantity of high-quality tech support on a volunteer basis.
Giorgio is far too modest to *ask* for donations, other than a teensy little box hidden in the upper corner of the NS pages, and far too nice and generous with himself to produce nag screens or "crippleware" versions of NS and FG, as so many other developers of "freeware" do. So for my part, I've tried to make it easier for those with a US bank account to donate
, (not an easy thing to do on behalf of a non-resident alien with no immediate plans to visit the US), and kicked off the account with what little spare change the current miserable economic situation allows. Without NS, I would be too afraid (literally) to use the Internet, although it's needed in my Real Job. So its value to me is more than I could ever repay.
Alan Baxter wrote:Using NoScript 220.127.116.11, element hiding still doesn't work on noscript.net. I'm unable to remove either the drivers or free scan ads. I have no intention of clicking on those ads and would prefer not to see them every time I look at the NoScript pages, which is quite often since I'm providing support.
I've never bothered to try before, but since you brought it up, AdBlock Original (still beating the same drum) blocks the Free Scan instantly on reload. The "Drivers" warning logo also disappears upon request, but the link itself appears to be a simple HTML <a href... link of the type that I use all the time in posting links, etc. on places that allow it. Being part of the page, you can't block that any more than you could block part of the page text. (although you could prevent the parsing of the HTML, but never mind that...)
Alan Baxter wrote:
By the way, do you get revenue for just displaying the ads, even if they're not clicked? I have no intention to click on any third-party products on your site, especially the ones you haven't personally vetted. Clicking third-party ads is often used to vector malware, and so far you've only been able to blacklist some of them. We both know what you think about the effectiveness of blacklists, eh?
My understanding of "general" Internet ad practice is: a tiny fraction of a cent for each display (e. g., USD $0.02 per *thousand* page views with your ad on it), plus a few cents per click, and perhaps a portion of the revenue if a sale results. Like you, I'm on the NS site frequently -- so frequently that I hardly even notice the ads, so if my repeated visits add up to a couple of cents for Giorgio, so much the better. I *could* block them, as above, but I don't. That doesn't necessarily apply to other sites, though.
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