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Pale Moon addons site listing discussion split from t=22267

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:22 am
by whoosh
Giorgio Maone wrote:I'll try to keep up with security fixes as long as compatible browsers which do receive security updates (such as Palemoon or Waterfox) are still available.

This Pale Moon user is grateful. Thank you very much.

I do have a question:
NoScript's (external) listing seems to have just disappeared again from the Pale Moon add-ons site.
[ https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/ ]

Is it possible to restore it?

Re: [FIXED] (classic) Automatic reload broken?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:29 pm
by therube
If it is not there, have to assume that PM removed it.
PM is hostile to NoScript, as it is.
PM takes the attitude of no support if you use NoScript.
Also possible that on that page they only list extensions there that "specifically" support PM (not sure)?

Re: [FIXED] (classic) Automatic reload broken?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:46 pm
by Giorgio Maone
whoosh wrote: Is it possible to restore it?
I sent an email to my "lead" there (the one who published the external listing last time).

Re: [FIXED] (classic) Automatic reload broken?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:39 pm
by Giorgio Maone
Giorgio Maone wrote:
whoosh wrote: Is it possible to restore it?
I sent an email to my "lead" there (the one who published the external listing last time).
And this is his answer:
Pale Moon guys wrote: The listing had been removed, as it had been creating too much confusion within our community.

Following the addition of the warnings in our Add-ons Manager earlier this year (to which I've previously explained), there had since been much confusion as to why an add-on with a warning was included on our site in any fashion, be that with a full listing or as an external one (i.e. linking to your site). When an add-on is included on our site it is generally viewed that
this should work without displaying any such warnings, our community has since displayed concerns about its presence on our site and on several occasions requested it be removed for this reason. In addition, due to the nature of the add-on affecting many parts of the browser - the nature of which debatable depending who you discuss with - it has created many support issues within our community that cannot easily be resolved, to the point where we have had to outright refuse support for such users (see https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17619). While there may not have been any issue with NoScript itself, it appeared to create additional issues elsewhere, such that its operation was (by many users) seen as an issue with the browser itself as opposed to the extension.

I am truly sorry about the confusion this situation has caused, however given the ultimate reaction by our community and the subsequent support issues presented by this we have had to take the decision to remove this outright. Users are still able to install the extension from your site, and get updates for it from your site as before; the only difference now is that we would not be able to link to it directly from our add-ons site (as an external listing is exactly that: a link to the site where one can install an extension, and nothing more).

Re: [FIXED] (classic) Automatic reload broken?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:52 am
by whoosh
Giorgio Maone wrote:And this is his answer:
Pale Moon guys wrote:[...]

Thank you for looking into it and posting their answer.
So from now on, Pale Moon users should get NoScript from here: https://noscript.net/getit#classic.

I'll admit I'm disappointed with their decision.

Thank you again for continuing support for the classic version of NoScript.


Edit (2018-10-08):
JoeG wrote:and I'll encourage other Pale Mooners to do the same.

Consider me encouraged,
Donation made. :)

Re: Pale Moon addons site listing discussion split from t=22

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:51 pm
by JoeG
Hello Giorgio,

I too would like to express my most sincere thanks for continuing your support for the PaleMoon family.

I'm making a (small :oops:) donation, and I'll encourage other Pale Mooners to do the same.

Best regards from Berlin,
JoeG

Re: Pale Moon addons site listing discussion split from t=22

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:57 pm
by Giorgio Maone
JoeG wrote:Hello Giorgio,

I too would like to express my most sincere thanks for continuing your support for the PaleMoon family.

I'm making a (small :oops:) donation, and I'll encourage other Pale Mooners to do the same.
Thank you.

Re: [FIXED] (classic) Automatic reload broken?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:07 pm
by YLT
Giorgio Maone wrote:
Giorgio Maone wrote:
whoosh wrote: Is it possible to restore it?
I sent an email to my "lead" there (the one who published the external listing last time).
And this is his answer:
Pale Moon guys wrote: The listing had been removed, as it had been creating too much confusion within our community. ...
Giorgio, thank you for your _years_ of work on this important project, and for taking on keeping NoScript viable for PM users, as well. Thanks for providing the above explanation for what has most recently occurred.