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What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:16 am
by emil778
I was using only Adblock Plus for a long time to block ads and recently i installed Noscript and decided to try some other adblocking addons along with Noscript, because Adblock Plus loads Firefox too much. I installed uMatrix and so far so good. What adblocking addon are you using along with Noscript?

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:19 pm
by therube

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:21 pm
by barbaz

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:08 pm
by yes_noscript
uBlock Origin + uMatrix.

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:03 pm
by Thrawn
If you're already using µMatrix, you'll get only small benefits from other adblockers.

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:09 am
by yes_noscript
I use uMatrix without the hosts filterlists, but uBlock with filterlists.
So uBlock can block unwanted elements + scripts even if i allow the content + javascript.

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:46 pm
by barbaz
yes_noscript wrote:I use uMatrix without the hosts filterlists, but uBlock with filterlists.

+1

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:27 pm
by yes_noscript
A guy i know not longer use NoScript because of uMatrix.
What did you guys think about that?

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:21 pm
by barbaz
yes_noscript wrote:A guy i know not longer use NoScript because of uMatrix.
What did you guys think about that?

Smart guy. ;)
(hope he's using recent enough µMatrix to avoid this https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/issues/554)

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:28 am
by Thrawn
barbaz wrote:
yes_noscript wrote:A guy i know not longer use NoScript because of uMatrix.
What did you guys think about that?

Smart guy. ;)

Um...was that sarcastic?

μMatrix can mostly replace NoScript, but it's probably worth keeping NS at least in Global Allow mode.

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:57 am
by barbaz
Thrawn wrote:Um...was that sarcastic?

No, what's stupid about picking up NoScript because of µMatrix (whatever that means exactly)? :?

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:38 am
by Thrawn
"not longer use NoScript" - I think this should have been "no longer uses NoScript".

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:07 am
by yes_noscript
Yes youre right :mrgreen:

@barbaz: The cookie leak is fixed in latest uMatrix + uBlock (even if it maybe not have this leak).
And if no NoScript is installed then there is no leak. Or i'm wrong?

So i agree what Thrawn say. It replace NoScript, but only the JavaScript allow/ forbid features.
Anyway the only feature from NoScript to kept it beside uMatrix is ABE.

Clearclick: i never see more then 10 times that protection in the years i use now NoScript
HTTPS Cookie Management: Isn't this browser defaults? Or can the Self Destruction Cookie addon this too?
XSS: I use Pale Moon which have a internal XSS filter
ABE: nice to have, but i'm sure only a handful people use it

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:28 pm
by barbaz
Sorry, I thought that "not longer" was meant to be "not long". :oops:

IMO the guy replaced a blowtorch with a campfire. Two totally different things which have only a small overlap in functionality.

yes_noscript wrote:@barbaz: The cookie leak is fixed in latest uMatrix + uBlock (even if it maybe not have this leak).

Yes, using the latest µMatrix that isn't an issue.

yes_noscript wrote:Anyway the only feature from NoScript to kept it beside uMatrix is ABE.

False.

yes_noscript wrote:Clearclick: i never see more then 10 times that protection in the years i use now NoScript

Same here. I'm not open to the idea of being compromised 10 times.

yes_noscript wrote:HTTPS Cookie Management: Isn't this browser defaults? Or can the Self Destruction Cookie addon this too?

Don't know about self desctructing cookies but it's certainly not a browser default. Well maybe Pale Moon does something like this but I haven't regularly used it in too long to be sure. Other browsers certainly don't.

yes_noscript wrote:XSS: I use Pale Moon which have a internal XSS filter

Defense-in-depth is always good, especially when encountering a false positive or a crappy design site that absolutely must be made to work ;)

yes_noscript wrote:ABE: nice to have, but i'm sure only a handful people use it

The handful of people who use NoScript and left the default setting of ABE enabled

Re: What adblock addon are you using along with NoScript?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:25 pm
by yes_noscript
barbaz wrote:
yes_noscript wrote:Anyway the only feature from NoScript to kept it beside uMatrix is ABE.

False.

Why?

barbaz wrote:
yes_noscript wrote:Clearclick: i never see more then 10 times that protection in the years i use now NoScript

Same here. I'm not open to the idea of being compromised 10 times.

Compromising is a argument okay.

barbaz wrote:
yes_noscript wrote:HTTPS Cookie Management: Isn't this browser defaults? Or can the Self Destruction Cookie addon this too?

Don't know about self desctructing cookies but it's certainly not a browser default. Well maybe Pale Moon does something like this but I haven't regularly used it in too long to be sure. Other browsers certainly don't.

Does a site exist to test the management?

barbaz wrote:
yes_noscript wrote:XSS: I use Pale Moon which have a internal XSS filter

Defense-in-depth is always good, especially when encountering a false positive or a crappy design site that absolutely must be made to work ;)

The intern XSS filter can be disabled, like the NoScript one.

barbaz wrote:
yes_noscript wrote:ABE: nice to have, but i'm sure only a handful people use it

The handful of people who use NoScript and left the default setting of ABE enabled

Okay, but ABE doesn't have any rules by default so it don't make anything, or?