Any way to revert graphical change?

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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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@Giorgio:

As I've already mentioned, the "unimproved" UI last used in the 11.3.7 was perfectly fine, and there was no need to "improve" it in any way.

Realizing full well how much time and energy you have given by now to the various UI iterations, and that, in the face of all of that work already invested, it might be difficult to just accept that all that was for nil, but would it be possible to simply return to how things were before all this started? For me at least, all of the different releases/variations to fix what wasn't broken in the first place are proving distracting, problematic or just plain ugly -- I have a very hard time looking at the most recent release, the 11.4.5rc1, with outlining (unnecessary) and text both much too heavy, especially with sites with many permissions.

Can we simply return to the original, "unimproved" one? Or at least give us the option to use that one? Or if it is impossible by now to return to the "original," can you please just stop at the interface employed in the latest stable release, the 11.4.4, which, although I still prefer the 11.3.7, is for all intents and purposes good enough?

Below, screenshot of the original 11.3.7:

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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:26 pm can you please just stop at the interface employed in the latest stable release, the 11.4.4,
Please no, not that. 11.4.5rc1 is a massive improvement on non-MacOS systems. It would be best to diagnose and fix the Mac specific blurriness rather than regressing the UI for most NoScript users.

Comparing side-by-side the 11.3.7 and 11.4.5rc1 screenshots, could the Mac-specific blurring maybe caused by the smaller "permission line" height vs 11.3.7 and/or the new odd/even rows background colors?
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11.4.5rc1
Much better, thank you :-).
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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barbaz wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:55 pm
kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:26 pm can you please just stop at the interface employed in the latest stable release, the 11.4.4,
Please no, not that. 11.4.5rc1 is a massive improvement on non-MacOS systems. It would be best to diagnose and fix the Mac specific blurriness rather than regressing the UI for most NoScript users.

Comparing side-by-side the 11.3.7 and 11.4.5rc1 screenshots, could the Mac-specific blurring maybe caused by the smaller "permission line" height vs 11.3.7 and/or the new odd/even rows background colors?
Sounds good, but no idea how to fix? CSS to try?
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:55 pm CSS to try?
To check if the even row color is related to the blurriness, this should set it to match 11.3.7 -

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:root {
  --bg-even-row: rgb(238,238,238) !important;
}
Missed earlier that you also think the outlines around the selected permission are too heavy. Not sure if this is the best answer but does it help? -

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:not(#presets) > .sites .site:not(.customizing) .presets input.preset:checked + label.preset {
  filter: drop-shadow(0 0 1px var(--fg-color1)) !important;
}
(If so, that should be changed only for Mac, as the outlines as-is in 11.4.5rc1 are better on Linux than this modification.)

On my machine the font seems identical in 11.3.7 and 11.4.5rc1, so nothing to test there. Unfortunately I was not able to figure out why the permission lines are slightly taller in 11.3.7, so not sure what CSS to test for that, sorry.
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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barbaz wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:53 pm 1) In NoScript Options, the selected preset is jammed up against the icon to its right. This does not happen in the popup. It would look better if the Options page had the same amount of spacing there as the popup currently does.
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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barbaz wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:35 pm
kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:55 pm CSS to try?
To check if the even row color is related to the blurriness, this should set it to match 11.3.7 -

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:root {
  --bg-even-row: rgb(238,238,238) !important;
}
Missed earlier that you also think the outlines around the selected permission are too heavy. Not sure if this is the best answer but does it help? -

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:not(#presets) > .sites .site:not(.customizing) .presets input.preset:checked + label.preset {
  filter: drop-shadow(0 0 1px var(--fg-color1)) !important;
}
(If so, that should be changed only for Mac, as the outlines as-is in 11.4.5rc1 are better on Linux than this modification.)

On my machine the font seems identical in 11.3.7 and 11.4.5rc1, so nothing to test there. Unfortunately I was not able to figure out why the permission lines are slightly taller in 11.3.7, so not sure what CSS to test for that, sorry.
Tried those in userContent.css. Seems to be an improvement, thanks. Might try futzing around with the code a bit to see what makes a difference, and if anything can get even better -- very impressive that you are able to write CSS like this. Me, I'm limited to editing once I have something to work with. In any case, whatever the outcome, looks like I'll have to get used to it.

EDIT: Actually, one major difference between this and the 11.3.7 is that the background of the permissions items, as in Default, Trusted etc., seems to be somewhat more grey. Wonder what CSS to try for that? Besides that, I still prefer the lack of outlining in the 11.3.7, since the spacing between permissions items achieves what for me is a better, less distracting effect. Any CSS to completely remove the outlining and restore the 11.3.7 spacing between permissions items?

Thought about posting a screenshot, but the effect of the new CSS gets lost in translation.
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:51 pm EDIT: Actually, one major difference between this and the 11.3.7 is that the background of the permissions items, as in Default, Trusted etc., seems to be somewhat more grey. Wonder what CSS to try for that?
Does this work to align active preset background color with NoScript 11.3.7? -

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:root {
  --bg-preset-color: rgb(221, 221, 221) !important;
}
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:51 pm I still prefer the lack of outlining in the 11.3.7, since the spacing between permissions items achieves what for me is a better, less distracting effect. Any CSS to completely remove the outlining and restore the 11.3.7 spacing between permissions items?
Just saw this edit.

Instead of all my previous code suggestions, try this which should combine those with the requests quoted -

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:root {
  --bg-even-row: rgb(238,238,238) !important;
  --bg-preset-color: rgb(221, 221, 221) !important;
}
:not(#presets) > .sites .site:not(.customizing) .presets input.preset:checked + label.preset {
  filter: none !important;
}
.site > * {
  padding-top: 1px !important;
  padding-bottom: 3px !important;
}
(I'm sure that last code section is not how 11.3.7 achieved the spacing, but does it still produce the desired effect?)
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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Per-site Permissions tab.
TRUSTED/CUSTOM https — black/white typeface.
TRUSTED/CUSTOM http & UNTRUSTED — red typeface.

Might it be better to use black/white for TRUSTED/CUSTOM http?
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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barbaz wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:18 pm
kukla wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:51 pm I still prefer the lack of outlining in the 11.3.7, since the spacing between permissions items achieves what for me is a better, less distracting effect. Any CSS to completely remove the outlining and restore the 11.3.7 spacing between permissions items?
Just saw this edit.

Instead of all my previous code suggestions, try this which should combine those with the requests quoted -

Code: Select all

:root {
  --bg-even-row: rgb(238,238,238) !important;
  --bg-preset-color: rgb(221, 221, 221) !important;
}
:not(#presets) > .sites .site:not(.customizing) .presets input.preset:checked + label.preset {
  filter: none !important;
}
.site > * {
  padding-top: 1px !important;
  padding-bottom: 3px !important;
}
(I'm sure that last code section is not how 11.3.7 achieved the spacing, but does it still produce the desired effect?)
barbaz you are a magician! Except for the permissions text being slightly darker and enclosing boxes being slightly narrower in the 11.3.7, I am hard pressed now to see the difference between the original 11.3.7 and this release modified with your latest CSS. Many, many thanks.
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Re: Any way to revert graphical change?

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@kukla You're welcome! Image
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Guest wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:54 am What do I do with the .xpi file I downloaded? I'm using Chrome. ???
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Guest wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:49 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:54 am What do I do with the .xpi file I downloaded? I'm using Chrome. ???
Thanks for nothing, everyone.
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Guest wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:49 am
Guest wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:54 am What do I do with the .xpi file I downloaded? I'm using Chrome. ???
Thanks for nothing, everyone.
Watch your tone. Posts can get missed and after this length of time it's OK to simply bump your post if you are still seeking an answer.

xpi files are zip files, so you could try renaming the .xpi to .zip and following the instructions Giorgio linked. But I don't know if the contents of the .xpi (which is Firefox specific) and the Chrome .zip are the same, or if not whether the differences would matter.
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