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Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by guardao » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:11 pm

NoScript - 11.0.27rc6 - June 1, 2020
Firefox - NIGHTLY 78.0a1 - Build ID 20200601093812


Why are some options disabled in this page ?

Options - TRUST - UNTRUST are DISABLED (Grayed)

For testing USE this link:
https://bicsp.min-saude.pt/pt/biufs/1/1 ... fault.aspx

See PIC.
https://imgur.com/a/6XvBo2E
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Giorgio Maone » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:48 pm

If you're experiencing this in a Private Browsing Mode (AKA Incognito) window, that's working as intended (not to leave unintended permanent traces of your navigation on disk, per PBM "contract"):

v 11.0.27rc6
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x Don't enforce Incognito UI restrictions if the "Override
Tor Browser Security Level preset" option is checked

v 11.0.27rc5
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x Enter key closes the popup also while editing the CUSTOM
preset
x Incognito-aware permissions persistence and UI
(https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/29957)

x Removed inline preset options relics
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by therube » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 pm

Is it intended that the operation to override is only available in Tor?
As in, I don't see how/where to override in non-Tor (Nightly)?

And I can certainly see where a user would want to "test" a page in Private Mode, but would want to be able to make changes "permanent" (so to pass back through to non-Private Mode).


(Similarly, though in an entirely different respect, for people who do Allow , I'd think the lack of ABE-like ability to be a big failing - compared to Legacy.)
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Giorgio Maone » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:25 am

therube wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 pm
Is it intended that the operation to override is only available in Tor?
Yes, because Tor users have only Incognito windows available and the already existent override was meant to prevent permissions to be reset to the Securrity Level default on each browser restart, so it's consistent with user expectations.
therube wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 pm
As in, I don't see how/where to override in non-Tor (Nightly)?

And I can certainly see where a user would want to "test" a page in Private Mode, but would want to be able to make changes "permanent" (so to pass back through to non-Private Mode).
Both on Tor and other browsers, you can review and switch permissions from temporary to permanent from NoScript Options>Per-site Permissions.

Anyway, this is a restriction put in place because privacy conscious users where surprised to learn that setting permanent permissions leaked information on their visited sites on the disk (something quite logical, yet...) which violates the Private Browsing "contract".

If you're aware of this still you want to override on a non-Tor browsers (where you could simply revisit the site in a non-private window and make your choice permanent), here's a hack:
  1. Open NoScript Options>Advanced]
  2. press Ctrl+Shift+K
  3. type

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    document.getElementById("opt-overrideTorBrowserPolicy").click();
    and hit Enter
Do the same if you want to go back to the default (it's a toggle).
therube wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:31 pm
Similarly, though in an entirely different respect, for people who do Allow (I typically do not), I'd think the lack of ABE-like ability to be a big failing - compared to Legacy.
Most users didn't use ABE, but power users (and myself) did, and I've got some plans for that too, but unfortunately I first need to ensure it's not all lost work with Manifest V3.
Contextual permissions are likely to come earlier, probably as a a further CUSTOM option (e.g. an "on this site only" checkbox).
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by guardao » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:39 am

Sorry guys,

I'm not an advanced user, I don't use the TOR browser, I just installed NIGHTLY and I use private browsing.

I don't want to change the code in NoScript,
but I would like to have full control of NoScript and decide what to block (like it was before).

CUSTOM option (e.g. an "Disable restrictions" checkbox) will be nice.

PS: I use "uBlock Origin" to find out what to block in NoScript.
Last edited by guardao on Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:21 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by therube » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:43 am

I think I got it toggled, once.
But don't think I've got it to go back?

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Uncaught TypeError: can't access property "click", document.getElementById(...) is null
    <anonymous> debugger eval code:1
debugger eval code:1:10
In any case, that's hardly a "clean" way to go about it.
If you want that setting by default, that's fine, but provide a toggle in Options | Advanced, or something, IMO.
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Mad_Man_Moon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:39 pm

Just to add a different perspective, I noticed this in one of the Android versions (either ff or nightly), and thought ... waaaaaaaitaminute ...

Then I remembered that I've wanted this functionality in private tabs (only) for a long while ... :lol:

Mostly because I don't want to close my private Windows, then accidentally visit a site in normal I visited privately (and temporarily allowed there) and it suddenly allow the scripts.

I'm just testing some other stuff on Android, so I'll edit in which version of was in a bit.

EDIT:
OK ... It works in Standard FF 68.8.1 NS 11.0.28, but not an older nightly ... I will update that in a second.
  1. Firefox Normal Tab
    ff_68-8-1_ns-11-0-28__normal.jpg
    Image
  2. Firefox Private Tab
    ff_68-8-1_ns-11-0-28__private. jpg
    Image
  3. Nightly private tab
    nightly_200514_ns-11-0-28__normal.jpg
    Image
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Nightly Version

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Nightly 200514 06:00 (Build #2015740211)
42.0.20200513162226, 956bc5f9b
GV: 78.0a1-20200513094918
AS: 0.58.2
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Giorgio Maone » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:28 pm

Mad_Man_Moon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:39 pm
I'm just testing some other stuff on Android, so I'll edit in which version of was in a bit.
Please check 11.0.29rc1: this incognito stuff messed up Firefox 68 and was messed up by Firefox Nighlty on Android, but it should be all sorted up now.
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by bo elam » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:01 pm

I use a Private window 100% of the time (set in Firefox Options). This change in NoScript makes things highly inconvenient for me, usability from my POV is degraded. Perhaps a setting to leave things as they were would bring usability back.

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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by guardao » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:26 pm

NoScript - 11.0.29rc1 - June 2, 2020
Firefox - NIGHTLY 79.0a1 - Build ID 20200602093554

Everything is the same, nothing has changed.

I still can't activate / deactivate - Trusted - Untrusted
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Mad_Man_Moon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:13 pm

Cheers, Giorgio ... you're doing the work of the great lord god on high (Ayrton Senna) with noscript ... 🏆
Giorgio Maone wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:28 pm
Please check 11.0.29rc1: this incognito stuff messed up Firefox 68 and was messed up by Firefox Nighlty on Android, but it should be all sorted up now.
Mad_Man_Moon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:39 pm
I'm just testing some other stuff on Android, so I'll edit in which version of was in a bit.
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Giorgio Maone » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:21 pm

guardao wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:26 pm
NoScript - 11.0.29rc1 - June 2, 2020
Firefox - NIGHTLY 79.0a1 - Build ID 20200602093554

Everything is the same, nothing has changed.

I still can't activate / deactivate - Trusted - Untrusted
Nothing was meant to change on that respect.
Probably I'll introduce an ad-hoc Advanced preference in 11.0.30. In the meanwhile you can use the hack above.
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Release_11_0_29 on some site Trusted and Untrusted are not selectable

Post by Arthur2020 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:49 am

From the options menu when right clicking, only Temp trusted and Custom are able to select. i.e. the selector is not moving with my choice.

For example go to: tweakers.net
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Re: Release_11_0_29 on some site Trusted and Untrusted are not selectable

Post by Giorgio Maone » Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:59 am

Arthur2020 wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:49 am
From the options menu when right clicking, only Temp trusted and Custom are able to select. i.e. the selector is not moving with my choice.

For example go to: tweakers.net
It's not the site, it's the Incognito mode you're using (or you're on the Tor Browser).
Please scroll back the rest of this thread for more information.
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Re: Options Disabled - Firefox NIGHTLY 78.0a1

Post by Arthur2020 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:58 am

Hi Giorgio, thanks for notifying. But this was never the case. Why not make it selectable?
I'm not using TOR.

Yes I'm using private mode, as I always do and did.. but sometimes a new site, for example, anew bank, or an insurance site, I want to have the option to set the selector to TRUST.

What is your suggestion? You can not open a new tab with CTRL + SHIFT + P which is not private.. so too much fuzz. Another option perhaps: Whitelisting?
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