Can't make payments on many sites

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clivew
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Can't make payments on many sites

Post by clivew » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:16 pm

Hi,

The new layout is confusing and not working for me. So many options and so many URLs.
On lots of web sites I can not complete purchases and have no idea which and how many "Default" settings need changing to "Trusted"
stripe seems to be one that does not work. LogMeIn payments another.

I don't want to have to ditch NoScript
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bo elam
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Re: Can't make payments on many sites

Post by bo elam » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:50 am

You have to trial and error to find what needs to be allowed. The more domains a site loads, the "harder" it is but after a while, the process becomes easier as you become familiar with domains, also, if you black list domains that show up all over the net that you dont need, the trial and error process becomes easier and easier as time goes on.

Bo
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clivew
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Re: Can't make payments on many sites

Post by clivew » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:56 am

Bo,
I appreciate the reply. Unfortunately I don't see how it helps.
If I am just using trial and error to make it work, how do I know which "trial" sites I "trust" I should NOT be trusting?
Seems to defeat the purpose of having NoScript.
What am I missing?

Thanks anyway.

Clive
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Re: Can't make payments on many sites

Post by barbaz » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:59 am

clivew wrote:If I am just using trial and error to make it work, how do I know which "trial" sites I "trust" I should NOT be trusting?
Seems to defeat the purpose of having NoScript.
What am I missing?
You're missing two things -

1) Once the site works, it works, and you don't need to allow any remaining blocked domains if you don't want to.

2) There are ways to reduce the amount of trial-and-error. For example - https://forums.informaction.com/viewtop ... 314#p75314
*Always* check the changelogs BEFORE updating that important software!
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bo elam
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Re: Can't make payments on many sites

Post by bo elam » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:45 am

clivew wrote: If I am just using trial and error to make it work, how do I know which "trial" sites I "trust" I should NOT be trusting?
Seems to defeat the purpose of having NoScript.
What am I missing?
Let me add a couple of things. For one, if I am going to use a site to make payments, where I am going to write personal sensitive information, I have to trust it. I am not talking about trusting it with NoScript but I mean, really trust that the site is honest and bona fide. If its supposed to be from your bank, make sure it is from your bank.

The other thing, about trial and error. Once you do that for a site you visit regularly, is basically done for good. Next time you visit it, you wonrt need to do nothing. No trial and error is needed anymore. Most sites stay put forever. Some change, and you have to play the cat and mouse game but most dont do that. I also find that most sites are fairly easy to figure out as the names of the domains usually tell the story of what the domain does. Also, most sites only display a few domains. And as you practice trialing and error with your bookmarked sites, by the time you done with them, the rest of the internet becomes easier.

I basically set up to the max all sites I visit on a regular basis, and since I have created a large black list based on where I go, (I black list domains that I see all over the place that dont need for nothing anywhere), when I need to temporarily allow something, the list of domains that I have to cherry pick from, is smaller, because of the black list.

Look at this site. In my opinion, something like this is what you want to do with NoScript and your bookmarked sites. It takes patience and time to learn to do this but in the end, that's what you really want to do with NoScript. Most sites are nice and clean but the site I am using for the example is a nasty site that I visit regularly. Thats done to the max with NoScript. People who visit the site without NoScript or good protection like Sandboxie, can get infected just by visiting it. On the other hand, because of the way I set it up, the sharks in the site become sardines, that cant touch me. HTH.

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clivew
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Re: Can't make payments on many sites

Post by clivew » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:32 am

Thanks, that helps a lot!
Really appreciate your perseverance with my questions.
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Re: Can't make payments on many sites

Post by Pansa » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:38 am

clivew wrote:Hi,

The new layout is confusing and not working for me. So many options and so many URLs.
On lots of web sites I can not complete purchases and have no idea which and how many "Default" settings need changing to "Trusted"
stripe seems to be one that does not work. LogMeIn payments another.

I don't want to have to ditch NoScript
I just have one question:

How was that different in the old UI?

The problem of guessing which script source needed to be trusted or not is the core functionality of NS classic, too.
You also get a long list that shows all the potential scripts the site wants to run, and if you don't allow the right ones the page doesn't load the functions you need, or if you more, some might not be in your overall interest.
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