As of a few days ago when you played a TED video, FG would detect it and show it but as of today it no longer does that. Do we have any idea what happened?
Example: https://www.ted.com/talks/kevin_kelly_t ... epic_story and there are over 20 others that I have tried today that have the same problem. In fact the ones that worked a few days ago don't even work anymore. Did something change with the site or the way FG handles it?
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TED Videos No Longer Detected
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
I'd assume that its a change in the site, in how they enumerate their media, & then whether FlashGot picks up on that.
I'll assume that FlashGot looks for links.
And not finding a link, reports nothing.
But there are "textual" links in the page source, so the links can be gotten & the clip downloaded.
Without looking too far, seems the clip is available in various bitrates.
And then there is the 'ol 'Download' button on the page itself.
Where you can get the video, subtitles, & or audio alone.
And they also give you a link to (I suppose) all TEDtalks available for download at various bitrates.
I'll assume that FlashGot looks for links.
And not finding a link, reports nothing.
But there are "textual" links in the page source, so the links can be gotten & the clip downloaded.
Without looking too far, seems the clip is available in various bitrates.
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http://download.ted.com/talks/KevinKelly_2009X-320k.mp4
Where you can get the video, subtitles, & or audio alone.
And they also give you a link to (I suppose) all TEDtalks available for download at various bitrates.
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
Ok, let me clarify, I figured it was obvious but apparently not. When you load the page, nothing to detect. That's expected. Its when you click on the video to play it always detected it and now it doesn't. I have been able to click on the download link and when it opens the MP4 in a new tab, FG detects it but by then its moot, I can just save it. Defeats the purpose of link detection by FG. Are we clear now? I know how to get the videos needed one way or another, that's never a stop issue for me, I just wanted to know why the tool that always worked, suddenly stopped detecting it. That's its.
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
Oh.
Well then, rtmp, which FlashGot has never seen.
So if FlashGot (Media) detected Ted before, then they were not using rtmp streaming at the time.
Well then, rtmp, which FlashGot has never seen.
So if FlashGot (Media) detected Ted before, then they were not using rtmp streaming at the time.
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rtmp://cp358131.edgefcs.net:443/ted<break>mp4:talk/stream/2009X/Blank/KevinKelly_2009X-950k.mp4 https://www.ted.com/talks/kevin_kelly_tells_technology_s_epic_story# https://www.ted.com/assets/player.swf?ver=5eaad5ed38388689f7093ff6469212d2
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
Again, unless they switched to RTMP in the last week, it has always detected it just fine. But thank you for the assist. I would more like to hear what the developer has to say on the subject being I am not just starting to use FG for the first time.
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
Then that's likely a very recent change. As far as I can see, the playing movie stream is nowhere to be found in the HTTP traffic, so they're currently streaming it only through the unsupported, Adobe-proprietary RTMP protocol, as therube hinted.[/quote]GµårÐïåñ wrote:Again, unless they switched to RTMP in the last week, it has always detected it just fine.
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
Thank you, then it has been very recent. But given that the MP4 is readily available under the download button, why not detect that? Or do we need an active HTTP traffic to detect it? not just a link?
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Re: TED Videos No Longer Detected
The generic, automated FlashGot Media flow analyzes active HTTP traffic for multimedia content types.GµårÐïåñ wrote:Thank you, then it has been very recent. But given that the MP4 is readily available under the download button, why not detect that? Or do we need an active HTTP traffic to detect it? not just a link?
Yes, we could find the link in the DOM and offer it in the FlashGot Media menu, but it requires ad-hoc code for this site.
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Ok, figured as much, thank you.
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