I thought I mentioned a little bit back in our discussions that in F4+, opening the Find toolbar moves the onmouseover link destination from lower left to lower right, and that I didn't even see it for a long time. It had been in the lower left for so many years, going back to my first Firefox in ... early 2000s? Can't remember. I assumed that the Find bar obscured it, because I never looked anywhere else. After all, why would a developer do something so illogical? [sticks out tongue] In the F3 that I still prefer to use, the link destinations stay on the left no matter what.Identities Infinite wrote:I never knew you visually-orientated people miss so much.
Yes, the sighted are heavily oriented to visual, going back to caveman days. Humans don't have the sense of smell that animals do, and many prey animals walk quietly, or else they don't live long. <wink> So we came to rely on the slightest visual cue -- a movement of a few leaves, or a change in the pattern of the forest -- for survival.
One hates to trot out stereotypes, but is it not true that if one sense is diminished or not present, the others try to compensate? The sightless listen more acutely and train their fingers to read the fine distinctions of Braille. Those without hearing must become more visually aware of their surroundings. Before cell phones with "vibrate" were common, multiple flashing lights in the home could signal a visitor at the door or a voice-to-text message coming over the teletype. Etc.
Whoa. Switches back to what? The username [email address] page, https www dot hushmail?I went back with no cookies. Firstly, I entered the full e-mail address; secondly, pressed Sign In; thirdly, pressed the return to original Hushmail link since it always switches back for some reason;
It doesn't move directly to the Password-Authenticate-Enable Java page? Index, I think it was?
If not, we need to find out why.
yesfourthly, the page which I copied shows up. In the NoScript | Blocked Objects sub-menu I hear the following items:
<snip>
Temporarily allow *@https://www.hushmail.com
Temporarily allow *@https://www.hushmail.com (https://www.hushmail.com)
Temporarily allow unknown@https://www.hushmail.com (https://www.hushmail.com)
Temporarily allow unknown@https://www.hushmail.com
Does the asterisk mean everything?
The second example of each, the longer one, specifies both a source and a destination.Why are there 2 of the last ones: unknown and asterisk?
I allowed the /appletFrame.php object and after it reloaded there is revealed a edit field with no name but with the digit 1 in it. I have no idea what that is.
I got that using the tab key, too. If I remember correctly [acronym: IIRC], it was a Search field or something. I'm not there right now; wanted to give an interim answer, as I have some other obligations. And oh my, lose an hour due to the start of Daylight Saving Time. It's still *winter*! [shreik!]
From memory, different categories or major topics of help. Will recheck when time permits.My guess is I must allow all other frames for it to work so let me do that. I just did that and after reloading it reveals a few onmouseover links that point to the help system: 4 to be exact on their own line. Why I have no idea.
Bingo. Do the enable Java one, and we're almost there.Let me allow the other frame now. Upon doing that and after the reload in that frame it contains the passphrase field, Authenticate button and links that say enable Java and explain
There is a known issue with phpBB that long links get truncated, and don't display properly. This is why it is better to wrap your list in code tags, if that is not too inconvenient. It "locks" the characters, white space, etc. URL tags work well for individual links, but in a list like what followed here,Here is the page as I know it with those 3 <FRAME> elements allowed. I did not turn on Java yet.
Code: Select all
is better.
[quote]Hushmail
Please enter your passphrase:
Authenticate
Enable Java | Explain
Try the new Hushmail
showLogin frame end[/quote]
Perfect. That is where we want to be.
[quote]Let me now enable Java. I did and the Java item is not yet in the system tray. However, this is where I notice the unknown frame and up top the <APPLET> element. I assume that is on what I should click.[/quote]
As said before, you are seeing what I cannot see <big grin>, unless I look in the source code myself. Never had occasion to before.
[quote]First the page then the blocked objects sub-menu:
Hushmail
<snip>
<FRAME>, unknown@https://www.hushmail.com/hushmail/blankContentFrame.php?PHPSESSID=0FBDE6CD76B9C6E28744CB43D863E22B
blankContentFrame frame end[/quote]
Again, the longer links get truncated, but I understand what was meant.
[quote]The blocked objects sub-menu now contains:
Temporarily allow *@https://www.hushmail.com
Temporarily allow *@https://www.hushmail.com (https://www.hushmail.com)
Temporarily allow java-vm@https://www.hushmail.com (https://www.hushmail.com)
Temporarily allow java-vm@https://www.hushmail.com
Temporarily allow java-vm@https://www.hushmail.com/.../com.hush.core.security.applet.HushEncryptionEngine
I will just press Enter on the <APPLET> placeholder on the page since I do not know which of the 3 to pick.[/quote]
As said before, *any* of them will work. So would the star, which as you correctly surmised, is "all". Fortunately that is the only first-party code object that Hush tries to load, so the *star* works, too. Any of the java-vm is fine. The last one, which ends in "core.security.applet.HushEncryptionEngine" is the most informative for the cautious or curious user, and on a site that doesn't have one's absolute trust, or which has many different types of blocked objects, we should be as selective as possible. But we must trust Hush, else why use it? Just don't allow the third-party script from google-analytics. The [url=http://hackademix.net/2009/01/25/surrogate-scripts-vs-google-analytics/]Surrogate Script[/url] will take care of that one while protecting your privacy.
[quote]I did that and the Java Platform, Standard Edition item is now in the system tray.[/quote]
Ta-da! [Do you know that expression?] How about, "Hip, hip, hooray!" Or "Voila"! ... maybe just "success at last". [smile ear to ear]
And you did NOT have to downgrade your Java runtime version, did you?
Are you at last able to use the Java-encrypted Hush now?
If so, we'll work on the rest another time. Just want to know if we at least got it working.
[I assume that there is no person or institution so trusted that they could assist by reading the screen themselves, so that they can report and see it as I do, and help interpret my comments compared to what JAWS sees? It *would* be easier on all, and get us to where you find Hush easy to use on your own, but if not, then on we go... Cheerio.]