Parity Begets Final Demise

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Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by therube » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:08 am

Parity Begets Final Demise


Now that extension parity exists (now that NoScript can be used) between Firefox & (in) Chrome, just what purpose is left for Firefox?

Why would one chose Firefox over Chrome?


Oh, that's right:
  • open
  • inclusive
  • shared
  • expressive
  • collaborative
  • private
  • safe
  • personalized
  • transparent
fake news
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(About the only thing missing would be FlashGot ;-).)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball NoScript FlashGot AdblockPlus
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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Re: Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by barbaz » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:09 pm

That is a misleading post.

Full extension parity does not exist. Firefox has more extensive WebExtensions APIs. Thus some extensions that are possible in Firefox are not possible in Chrome.

You want to take NoScript as an example? The Chrome version of NoScript does not have XSS filter. Nor does Chrome have all the APIs that are required to implement ABE - https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc ... patibility

So I would say, one purpose of using Firefox over Chrome would be for the extensions, e.g. to have the full functionality of NoScript.
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Re: Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by GµårÐïåñ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:07 pm

Excuse the language but there is a cluster fuck of fragmentation and inconsistencies among the API provided by Chrome or Firefox or <insert giant asshole> and therefore there will NEVER EVER be parity in the sense that everything will run on everything the same way, just won't happen, EVER, anyone tells you otherwise they are full of shit. Fact is that Chrome will never implement things that will cut into their bread and butter and Firefox jumped into this so unprepared and disorganized just so they can say "me too" that they have effectively destroyed the legacy of Firefox by making it a shallow and mediocre copy of everything else. Basically you are at the mercy of whoever wants to give you whatever and that's it.
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Re: Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by therube » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:13 am

(About the only thing missing would be FlashGot ;-).)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... ownloader/
(It can interface with external applications, so presumably my download manager ? but needs some kind of "shim" to do so, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... beilbaifdo, but I'm not messing with that.)

(Now granted. You still have to be a masochist to use a Quantum browser, be it called "chrome" or "firefox".)


Any you want a selected text copier?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... on-select/


Now need to see if Chrome has a bookmarks toolbar, & can do bookmarklets?
bookmarks toolbar
Laugh (or cry depending on how you look at it), it is already there, displaying, by default.
I just didn't realize what it was. I just took it to be a "blob" of white space (in an otherwise homogeneous, nondescript UI).
bookmarklets
Works. Everything Search bookmarklet works :-).
And (Chrome) doesn't seem to be affected by viewtopic.php?f=10&t=24374.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball NoScript FlashGot AdblockPlus
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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Re: Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by therube » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:23 am

Extensions are not enabled in Chromium in a Private Window :o (by default).
But can be enabled (on a per extension basis).
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball NoScript FlashGot AdblockPlus
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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Re: Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by therube » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:18 pm

viewtopic.php?p=99938#p99938

https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online ... 0/comment/

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Tja Mozilla, das kommt dabei raus....

...wenn man ein Alleinstellungsmerkmal rauswirft und die (viel mächtigere) XUL Addon Schnittstelle absägt.

Tolles Karma, noch mehr Leute die zu Chrome abwandern.

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Well, Mozilla, that comes out ....

... if you throw out a unique feature and saw off the (much more powerful) XUL addon interface.

Great karma, even more people moving to Chrome.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball NoScript FlashGot AdblockPlus
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Re: Parity Begets Final Demise

Post by therube » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:20 pm

Oh, & NoScript now works in "MS Edge" [beta] (aka Chrome).
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Pinball NoScript FlashGot AdblockPlus
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5

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