RFE: Sticky Menu for Recently Blocked Sites

[therube]

RFE: Sticky Menu option for Blocked Objects, Recently Blocked Sites, Untrusted?

Just throwing out the idea.
Might make sense?

[Tom T.]

Agree, support, and BUMP.

[GµårÐïåñ]

Wondering, can you make a case where that would be useful?

[Tom T.]

Wondering, can you make a case where that would be useful?

Sure. The exact same reason that the RFE for sticky main menus was implemented:

You go to SiteX, allow some stuff, etc., and a bunch of stuff is in Blocked Objects. You may have to TA more than one.
Better to do that than to go through the reload, open menu again, TA another.

Same with Recently Blocked Sites. May have to TA more than one. It's happened. Never happened to you?

Admittedly less so for Untrusted. You may have to TA more than one Untrusted, although that's less likely -- if you really don't trust it, you don't want to TA it. But someone might, sometimes. I do, while doing support, in testing which Untrusted scripts might be breaking the site by not running. (thus producing a good case for a new surrogate )

[GµårÐïåñ]

I don't use or even show the recently blocked sites, useless to me as a feature, I was surprised Giorgio even took his precious time to implement it. Blocked Objects, ok yeah but they are tied to the domain that handles them, unless you have block on trusted checked too, in which case you wouldn't need to TA them individually off that menu, just don't see it. But hey, if it happens that someone's need provokes it, then I am all for it, but to answer your question, NOPE, never happened to me. The only thing I use and find very useful and sufficient is the sticky menu on the main allowances, that's all. But thanks for sharing, maybe its something I will come to use or need in the future and see the point but I couldn't, that's why I asked.

[Tom T.]

I don't use or even show the recently blocked sites, useless to me as a feature, I was surprised Giorgio even took his precious time to implement it. ...

As Giorgio explained to me, they mainly show when you forbid all embeddings, and "Apply these restrictions to whitelisted sites too" - which I have always done, as being the safest mode.

Thus, if you TA a script from example.com, it might call IFRAMEs, Flash, etc., which are *not* allowed by the mere script permission. So yes, "Recently Blocked Sites" does show, typically with "Allow all from example.com", meaning: allow all embeddings as well. Etc.

If you like, put NS in this full-lockdown mode and browse for a few days, to see if this situation occurs for you.

ETA: See this post for one case where RBS showed many.

[GµårÐïåñ]

Yeah after what you said I figured it would only be useful in the case of those who apply to trusted only. That's why I put that in there. Hey if its a widely enough useful feature, and Giorgio wants or feels the need to put it in there, I am +1 on it, but personally I don't have a use for it. At least not at the moment

[Tom T.]

personally I don't have a use for it. At least not at the moment

So, we have your permission to request this feature for the many of us who do need it?


p. s.: You've described elsewhere your "most possibly locked-down profile", but you allow all embeddings at every site that you whitelist or TA?

[GµårÐïåñ]

You never need MY permission to ask for anything, I was simply stating my two cents to see the practical use of something being asked for, that's all. I don't see the point of welfare, private schools, or paper professionals (those who get certified on paper but don't know jack about what they are doing) or any "commander in chief" who doesn't know spit about war giving out commands, but there they are, doesn't mean squat. To each their own, we live in the world of the majority wants and not necessarily practical needs.

[Tom T.]

Lighten up, Brother! The big grin was to indicate that the "permission" comment was facetious.

... and most private schools in the US do a *far* better job than our badly-failing public schools (compare standardized test scores of US students with their counterparts in many other countries), but that's O/T, and besides, don't even get me started.. .

[GµårÐïåñ]

Oh I am sorry, I wasn't trying to be defensive, I knew you were joking, I was simply stating for the record my default position on things, because this medium often leaves a lot of context and subtext to be desired and I didn't want any confusion or doubt.

I agree that often private schools and even some charters are doing a better job as our public schools are tanking, but I am the product of the public school system - mind you long ago before it started going to hell by the way of a snow ball - and if I may for one tiny second be self promoting and less than modest, I would be the poster child for how AWESOME public schools can be. I have more education and accomplishments that those who were born with a silver spoon and whose parents dumped 100k a year on their education to end up becoming some mediocre nobody. Now I will concede however, that its neither public nor private school, neither money nor lack of it, that decides the outcome, its the person, their drive, effort, and what THEY choose to make of themselves that matters in the end. So private/public have their superstars, they both have their examples of being completely useless too, just gotta see where the individual lands on that spectrum. But you are right, don't get me started on this, I can go for ever.

[Tom T.]

I despised public schooling, having to daydream for 45 minutes while the other kids struggled with the stuff that I had understood within the first five minutes. I have sometimes regretted not accepting an offer to be in a private school that was a "laboratory" (testing ground) for educating those who did not fit into the middle-of-the-bell-curve orientation of public schools. But I was ten years old, wanted to be with my friends, etc.

It's a bit rough to realize at ten or eleven that you're smarter than some of your teachers, and especially to have them "correct" you when you know you're right and they're wrong. It left a bitter taste.

You faced some unique challenges, applied yourself, overcame, and benefited greatly. Whereas I became an egregious under-achiever.

[GµårÐïåñ]

Yeah I know how you feel and I rode the higher fringe of the bell curve myself, and so what I did was take matters in my own hands and instead of going at the pace they had set for me, I would double up. What I mean by that. For example, 8th grade, you take general math which they rudely refer to Algebra, what an insult to Algebra, then that summer, I took Geo, then regular term in 9th, I took A2, the following summer, took trig, the regular term took pre-cal, summer took cal and as you can see by Junior year I was in AP Cal. But had I taken the route most others took, I would be sitting there going huh? in my senior year f-ing with trig if I was lucky. That's just one example. Not to mention I did something else that made my adviser proud and was so over my parent's head, they just said, do what you think is right, we have no idea what you are doing. I put myself through school, my parents while great and caring, had no clue i was taking what when. All they were good at was, mom/dad, sign here, initial here and I would fill out my own forms, submit them and do things and they would just go along for the ride. Now imagine I had parents who actually had a clue, in my case it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome but for someone else, it could make or break how they turn out. I wanted it, had goals for myself and wasn't resolved to mediocrity, but others would be more happy goofing off and skipping school than to worry about tomorrow. Unfortunately public/private, neither do anything to curb that.

[Tom T.]

.... but others would be more happy goofing off and skipping school than to worry about tomorrow. Unfortunately public/private, neither do anything to curb that.

Really O/T here, but my last comment is that when parents are paying big bucks for a private school, as opposed to the "free" public schools (for which they must also pay taxes, as we all do), they tend to be more demanding that the school produce results, else they'll take their business (child) elsewhere. Free-market competition vs. entrenched near-monopoly of public schools.