10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

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Pansa
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10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by Pansa » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:39 am

Great.
So now we can't change the default settings on domains that are already set to default any more.

If you want to change them (*), you have to go to the options, which do not SHOW any default domains,
then set a domain you already set to a rule for to default,
then change the default settings,
and
then change the domain back to whatever it was.

That surely is more logical and easy to understand than what it was before....
Hurray for UI improvements...
Especially if someone doesn't even know that the default rules are not "run nothing" as one might expect (might, not has to). Finding the default settings now is a pure "prior knowledge" thing. I do not think anybody will find them on their own in this current implementation.

*)Which in itself might not be that bad if not for a bug (possibly related to a bug from the first NS 10 version that was fixed, this is not new in 10.1.6.2).
Back than creating a custom rule with checkmarks changed the default settings with the same checkmarks.
This still happens IF:
You use the insite interface of a missing object or media, and allow it from there.

Example:
http://imagevenue.com/

If you have it completely blocked as default
The flash object will first be complained about by Firefox.
If you allow it, the next is the NS10 field that blocks the flash object.
If you click, a popup will ask you whether you want to trust the file or the domain.
If you choose the domain, it will create a custom rule with "object" set.
And it changes the default rules to allow objects.

Which you now will never see, unless you look in the debug log, or mess with your set rules in the described way.
If you are removing the preset settings from the pop-up for good, could you please at least make a dedicated line above all the specific rules in the options window where all the presets can be seen and configured?
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by barbaz » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:11 am

Moving to NoScript Development
*Always* check the changelogs BEFORE updating that important software!
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by bo elam » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:44 am

Pansa wrote: If you click, a popup will ask you whether you want to trust the file or the domain.
If you choose the domain, it will create a custom rule with "object" set.
And it changes the default rules to allow objects.
I see that also, Pansa.

Bo
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by FranL » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:31 pm

Pansa wrote:Finding the default settings now is a pure "prior knowledge" thing. I do not think anybody will find them on their own in this current implementation.
Perhaps the Options page should have three rows of checkboxes at the top, one each for DEFAULT, TRUSTED (including Temp. TRUSTED), and UNTRUSTED, so the global checkbox settings are right there in the user's face.
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:10 pm

Re the following change in 10.1.6.2:
- Removed customizability of DEFAULT, TRUSTED and UNTRUSTED preset from the popup (reported as a major source of confusion) while keeping it in the Options tab

Before 10.1.6.2 I could at least use that funtionality to review what exactly is currently blocked (it's highlighted in red) at the currently displayed website. This is no longer possible. I don't need the ability to change those settings right there (can do that via settings), but would really like to view that information at least.
Or simply display detail of everything what's blocked in some different way.
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by jawz101 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:54 pm

FranL wrote:
Pansa wrote:Finding the default settings now is a pure "prior knowledge" thing. I do not think anybody will find them on their own in this current implementation.
Perhaps the Options page should have three rows of checkboxes at the top, one each for DEFAULT, TRUSTED (including Temp. TRUSTED), and UNTRUSTED, so the global checkbox settings are right there in the user's face.
Say, like this design proposal? https://forums.informaction.com/viewtop ... =7&t=23656
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by barbaz » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:30 pm

mag wrote:Re the following change in 10.1.6.2:
- Removed customizability of DEFAULT, TRUSTED and UNTRUSTED preset from the popup (reported as a major source of confusion) while keeping it in the Options tab

Before 10.1.6.2 I could at least use that funtionality to review what exactly is currently blocked (it's highlighted in red) at the currently displayed website. This is no longer possible. I don't need the ability to change those settings right there (can do that via settings), but would really like to view that information at least.
Or simply display detail of everything what's blocked in some different way.
https://forums.informaction.com/viewtop ... =7&t=24370
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by Pansa » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:16 pm

bump:

Bug still in 10.1.6.4

Creating a rule via the in-page interface still creates a custom rule and changes the default configuration
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by Pansa » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:15 pm

bump:

Bug still in 10.1.6.5

Creating a rule via the in-page interface still creates a custom rule and changes the default configuration

Just to reiterate what the problem here is.

Activating any media or object via any webpage automatically allows media or object for ALL webpages by default.
That surely can't be "intended".
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Bug with Blocked Objects dialog - v10.1.6.5

Post by Tomatix » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:30 pm

NS 10.1.6.5, FF 58.0.2

I think I found a bug. Please try this:

Steps to reproduce:
1. Make sure DEFAULT preset has object unchecked
2. go to example page: https://www.schulferien.org/Kalender_mi ... erlin.html
3. click on the right blocked object box at the top
4. click "ok" in the pop-up window

Expected behaviour:
A CUSTOM rule is added for the object URL. That works ok.

Bug:
DEFAULT preset is changed to allow objects.
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Re: Bug with Blocked Objects dialog - v10.1.6.5

Post by Tomatix » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:03 pm

Sorry, didn't see it was already reported. I did not check this thread based on its subject.
https://forums.informaction.com/viewtop ... 336#p95842
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by barbaz » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:10 pm

Threads merged.
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by Giorgio Maone » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:12 am

Please check latest development build, thanks.
v 10.1.6.6rc1
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+ Tabbed options sections
+ Appearance option to turn off script count badge
+ Appearance option to hide context menu item
x Fixed legacy import bug creating too permissive DEFAULT
presets (thanks Grumpy Old Lady for reporting)
x Fixed 10.1.6.2 regression: enabling object placeholders
affected DEFAULT permissions (thanks Pansa for reporting)
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Re: 10.1.6.2 Changes and behaviour (incl a bug).

Post by Tomatix » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:15 pm

works correctly now :)
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