GµårÐïåñ wrote:... I have been using RF since the time it was first introduced and it looked much like your program, simple interface, very "amateurish" GUI if you will, but none the less it was clever and powerful, so I don't judge anything by its look, just function. I will actually admit that I find RF has gotten a bit more bloated than I would have liked over the years and although some refinements were welcome, not all of the stuff they have added was to my liking.
I think RF might be going the way of Icarus
everyone is chasing someone else.
Tom T. wrote:I didn't actually d/l it. Saw the size and said, bleah. But as you are taking the time to check out my recommendation, yes, I should check the newest version to see the differences. Will put on flash drive to avoid any conflicts with the native install.
It can't have too many dependencies, since it runs on *any Windows machine* in the flash drive version, so it must rely on only default-installed Windows files, if any. Please allow a day or two for me to compare them thoroughly.
You mean like, Firefox chasing Chrome?
Tom T. wrote:It's not as bad as I thought. The program is smaller than the installer.
One reason is that this installer includes multiple languages -- European, two Chinese, etc. -- and by opting out of all but English, installed size shrinks.
Actual installed size = ~ 7 MB, and of that, the .chm Help file is almost 2 MB. So, only 5 MB actually needed.
Includes an on-screen keyboard.
The .exe itself went up from 1.5 MB to 3.7 MB. GUI was mostly the same; "enhanced" colors, like I really care about that.
It offers both native install and disk-on-key install, the latter not using the Windows registry. So, as mentioned, you can use it safely as a guest on another host machine. I don't remember if there was a differential choice in v3.15's installer. Maybe you had to choose: D/l the portable, or d/l the native. That would account for larger installer size here.
I suppose I could try a HD install in a different ProgFiles folder, and check size.
I just checked the Registry for the (existing) native install. Only typical user prefs are stored there, like window size/location, and standard stuff like file paths.
The only MRU stored is the filename of the last pw db that was opened, which isn't any secret, and of no use to an attacker who uses the machine after you do. Nothing that in any way would give anyone access to your creds, without the master pw. Decryption is done only on-the-fly in RAM, and *never* stored in the clear on disk, as always.
No major changes to the operation: Here I am, logged in at NS Forum via PWS 3.28 on Flash drive.
The really cool part, as always: I copied my current pw db to the new flash drive folder, and the new install immediately recognized it. Upon launch, it prompted for master p/w -- same pw as the native install -- and Bam! - popped right up.
It would take a while to look into the finely-grained option changes, but it doesn't look like they foobarred anything, and I can live with going from 2 MB to 5 MB. Not exactly bloat. Pdf readers: Foxit v2 @ 4MB, Adobe @ 400 MB -- now, *that's* bloat.
Some installers will package say the C++ or VB library foundations because their program depends on it and will check to see if the system has it or not, if it does, then they skip it and if not then they install it, so that's why sometimes the installers are much larger than the actual program. It was an educated assumption not knowing for sure, it doesn't mean it does or it is. Nowadays most systems come preloaded with all the libraries for VB, C++, this and that, so yeah most programs can get away with just crossing fingers and hoping its there, but a good developer would always check, at least I do, just to make sure.
I loved and favored Fx for years and recommended it, but now when people ask I say, roll the dice and decide on your own
I installed the key version to keep it on the drive and not use the registry, but if I were to install it for regular use, I would probably put it on my main machine but even then probably not the registry option so I can back up easier
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GµårÐïåñ wrote:Yeah I downloaded the latest build of 6/30/11 from SourceForge <snip> Let me know how you feel about the latest one since you have a better perspective while I check it out too.
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