Should I forbid <FRAME> & <IFRAME>?

[Identities Infinite]

I did not pay for Jarte Plus; the former college in which I was enrolled did for my English course [which I passed with no problem just like the journalism course which incidentally had the same professor]. I never tried Firefox's spell checker mainly because I did not want to download dictionaries and I never understood how it works.

For me $49 USD is a lot. There is this organisation who funds my college tuition, purchased this laptop and all its accessories and basically putting me through post-dary education. If it was not for that I would not have anything because that is the type of economic situation in which I have always lived. I did not know what the Internet was till I aged 15 so there you go. I hope I get a free renewal because that would help immensely. I will do my best to offer the most constructive feedback to them.

[Tom T.]

I never tried Firefox's spell checker mainly because I did not want to download dictionaries and I never understood how it works.

As far as I know, the dictionary is a standard part of the download, for whichever localisation of Firefox you have chosen. For example, mine comes with US English dictionary. I believe that spell-check is on by default, but it can be enabled from a context menu: Right-click a field, and check "Spell-check this field." The problem is that there is only a visual cue of a misspelling, which is a squiggly red line underlining the misspelled word.

For example, I deliberately used the British spelling of "localization", and using the US dictionary, that was flagged as an error. Right-clicking the flagged word provides suggested alternates; clicking one replaces the misspelled word with the corrected one. A request to Mozilla to include an optional audible beep or something, upon detecting a misspelling, hardly seems unreasonable. Unfortunately, you would have a lot of false-positives: Most acronyms, such as USD, get flagged, and so do many abbreviations and colloquialisms. However, there is also a choice in the context menu, "Add to dictionary", so over time, one can customize the dictionary with terms that one frequently uses.

I did not know what the Internet was till I aged 15 so there you go.

The Internet did not exist when I was born, so there you go. [grin]. I was well into adulthood before access to it, and computers capable of accessing it, became affordable for average households. Starting young is definitely an advantage.

[GµårÐïåñ]

The ribbon interface was surely something that annoyed many and something people need to get used to but it has potential if given the chance. Its no different than the "Outlook Sidebar" style that was introduced years ago to the same reaction and now anyone familiar with Spybot S&D knows they use it and it has come common place and people got used to it. Going from Windows 3.x to 95 and then to XP wasn't smooth either but people got used to it and got over it. The ribbon was a bit of shock because it focused on the "professionals" and not the end users and that's one thing I would say MS didn't account for and wasn't ready for the backlash but it will become common place and people will adjust.

When touhscreen was introduced it was just as annoying to those used to pointing and clicking and now its practically a way of life. Change can cause initial shock and take time to get used to but not always bad, although I guess only time will tell. There was nothing wrong with Notepad, Wordpad or MsPaint but they wanted to standardize the interface on WIn 7 and going forward, you can't really blame them for it, although I have to say in SOME cases, I prefer the older simpler interface, the new one has potential but who's going to take time to get to know it and use it when they are within a comfort zone they don't feel the need to step out of, right?

[Identities Infinite]

I had that feeling the spell checker is not audible. In that case it would not be helpful. The worst aspect about community projects like Firefox is there is nobody to contact. It is not like Giorgio who I can with a few keystrokes be on my way to composing an e-mail requesting something and know I will receive a response even if it takes days. Who do I contact to request something for Firefox? Who knows because millions of people are the developers.

From an accessibility point of view the menu interface is extremely more straightforward. To me it is more than a comfort zone but fortunately JAWS has something in version 13 called a virtual ribbon menu. I think it is supposed to make those applications more easy. This is what it says.

Select this check box to turn on the Virtual Ribbon Menu. This is applicable for applications where Ribbons are present instead of the classic menu bar and menus. When it is on, an application's Ribbon is organised and navigated using the traditional menu and submenu format that is familiar to most users. By using the ARROW and TAB keys, it is easier to move focus between Upper Ribbon tabs and Lower Ribbon groups. These same keys are also used to select items within a group. In addition, SPACEBAR, ENTER, and ESC are used to expand or collapse submenus. This check box is cleared by default.

Seems doable? Maybe I will atryto cope one of these days. Touch screens [had to read that one by character laugh] is not possible for the blind/visually impaired. Aside from me not liking all the technology and devices that begin with a lower case i, that is my other beef with everything touch screen. I have no possible way of knowing what I am touching because it all feels the same.

[Tom T.]

Try filing a report with Mozilla's bug-tracking system, Bugzilla, whose location is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi
This is definitely an accessibility bug rather than a feature request, assuming that they care at all about accessibility, and in any event, it should bring it to someone's attention.

You will have to register. No big deal.

I'm glad that JAWS cleans up ribbons. With all due respect to my good friend Guardian, some of these changes are useless at best and counter-productive at worst. I.I. and I have discussed many such. Sure, eventually we get used to them, but does M S realize that they're giving me even more incentive to stay with my familiar old operating system, rather than buy the new one? And the same with Mozilla, where I will stay on 3.6 as long as possible. Change for the sake of change is stupid, and a waste of human resources that could be put to better use -- like, say, security and accessibility.

I don't use any touch screen devices, either. I'm clumsy enough at a keyboard. One would think that they could make a Braille touch screen, at least for the keyboard, though of course the content of other touch screens would vary as different functions are accessed. In my opinion, you're not missing anything. Smart phones and similar devices are even more insecure than desktop operating systems, both because of the smaller footprint allowed, and because you are adding general telephone access to an Internet-enabled device. Lots of room for phone hacking.

I use my telephone to make phone calls and my computer to access the Internet, which I guess makes me a dinosaur. But a much more secure and comfortable dinosaur.

[Identities Infinite]

I rather be a dinosaur than a hip insecure average person. I have never owned a mobile phone and do not want to. If I do I will try to track down one of the 1996 Motorola flip phones or something that is large enough with no additional capabilities.

There are refreshable Braille displays; I have one. Braille touch screen is an innovative concept but Braille graphics are really complex and most likely not feasible to generate on-the-fly.

[Tom T.]

I have a mobile flip phone that is more recent than that, somewhere in the 2000s, with a standard numerical telephone keypad. It has the ability to access the internet, but you have to affirmatively select to do so at any given time. In other words, it is off by default. And the Internet minutes are expensive. So, as long as I do not click the menu options to connect to the Web, it acts like any old-fashioned phone, more or less. Look for the cheapest cell phones. "Dumb phones", if you will, versus Smart Phones. [grin]

[Identities Infinite]

I like the dumb phone concept because it translates to simplicity and necessity. I want something with the minimalist capabilities and something that is large in size [not like the suitcase type things they had 30 years ago]; something nobody would use any more. I can not seem to locate anything in shops however. I do not even need the textual messaging functions but I guess I must compromise somewhere.

[Tom T.]

We're not really shoppers here [grin], but as a courtesy, I found this one, but the individual phone doesn't have its own URL, so search for, or tab to, "Casio GzOne Ravine 2"."Ruggedly built for outdoor use", flip phone with standard numeric keypad, and if you do decide to text, it has a dictation mode that turns your dictation into text -- kind of what I had asked about for your computer. Yes, it has all the other bells and whistles, including e-mail and web browsing, but you don't have to use them. At $49.95, it's about as cheap as one may find, other than disposables. Which might not be a bad choice. It requires a service plan.

This one, on the same page, listed as "Samsung T139 Grey for T-Mobile" is free with a T-mobile account, described as "An Entry-level Flip Phone That Fits In Your Pocket and Your Budget".

That's just from one retailer. Certainly try others. And check out disposable phones, especially if you don't plan to use it all that much.

[Identities Infinite]

Disposable phones with no contract are the only things I would use. I do not want any company knowing I exist; it is too much I had to acquire an identification card simply to have cheques cashed and not only at a banque either. When a mobile phone company knows I exist that is when the high-profile thing begins to rear its ugly head. Perhaps it is paranoia but I have always been introverted and to myself by nature.

As a side note, Giorgio might want to disable the auto-parse settings. I can not type high-profile without it linking to the MozillaZine forums laugh and I do not think the braces show whenever I type them.

[Tom T.]

Disposable phones with no contract are the only things I would use. I do not want any company knowing I exist; it is too much I had to acquire an identification card simply to have cheques cashed and not only at a banque either.

I guess I don't want to know the reason for that level of paranoia, and you probably wouldn't tell me, either. [laugh]

Don't use the shortcuts for other than their intended use. If you want' to say, "high-profile", hand-type both words in full.
And don't use the braces, except when you want the shortcuts to parse. Notice that the bare letters rp, abp, profile, etc. do not become something else.

[Identities Infinite]

I did type it out in full but certain words trigger the parser. I do not know how to stop that; I do not think I can. I never abbreviate things but I have been getting used to interpreting some of them here.

[Tom T.]

They can't possibly trip the parser without the braces. Perhaps you've created an automatic typer, like Texter, in which those letters automatically add the braces. Or your copy/pasting from the list. Note that when I posted the raw terms without braces, they did not parse. Look:
profile
profile
profile

What other words do you think auto-parse without braces?

[Identities Infinite]

It is BBcode that parses. When I type profile it automatically adds the [url]/url] BBcode. It does not use braces. It does the same with [url=http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config]about:config[/url] but that is understandable since that is not an every day conversational term.

[GµårÐïåñ]

Some of the commonly used terms that might require a new person to learn about have been built into this forum to link to their corresponding resources, that is why sometimes it will automatically parse a link into it for certain things. Just thought I add that in there.