Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

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Re: Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

Postby scooty-cat » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:56 am

Currently, I am using Mepis (Debian rebranded) on a usb because:
1. This laptop is literally falling apart.
2. The IDE interface crapped out.
3. Being the nerd I am, I can make the laptop last until it falls apart completely.

Anyway, how has everybody been?
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Re: Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

Postby Thrawn » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:26 am

There was a relevant discussion at viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8337&p=36972#p36982
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Re: Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

Postby scooty-cat » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:43 pm

This is going to split hairs; but, considering the influence of Linux with TomTom, Android, TiVo, PlayStation, et cetera et al, Microsoft is not the community standard.
For one thing: The OS has been bound to the i386/amd64 architectures. There is a small move towards ARM based laptops. Look at the Windows Phone development.
A lot of people forget- or don't know- that MIcrosoft is business. You must build your customer base in order to build your profit

Hardware:
AMD64 is limited to sixteen registers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processor_ ... e_examples
The only problem with CISC architecture is that bottlenecking of the CPU can occur. Both SPARC64 and POWER(PC) can take a greater load without additional stress to the CPU.

Gates had intended to enter the "UNIX" market with Xenix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix but decided against it in favor of the DOS based Windows.
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Re: Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

Postby Thrawn » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:29 am

scooty-cat wrote:This is going to split hairs; but, considering the influence of Linux with TomTom, Android, TiVo, PlayStation, et cetera et al, Microsoft is not the community standard.
For one thing: The OS has been bound to the i386/amd64 architectures. There is a small move towards ARM based laptops. Look at the Windows Phone development.

Dedicated Linux-user here, but I'm going to chime in to support Tom and point out that any devices that can't run Firefox - eg TomTom and PlayStations - aren't really relevant to the discussion of which OS a NoScript user is on, nor do they really come into play when discussing application compatibility. So Tom's position - that Windows supports the most applications - isn't really affected.

Android is a more convincing case, but I doubt Tom will ever be interested in running a mobile browser.
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Re: Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

Postby scooty-cat » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:05 pm

Thrawn wrote:Dedicated Linux-user here, but I'm going to chime in to support Tom and point out that any devices that can't run Firefox - eg TomTom and PlayStations
You are quite wrong on this one.
1. Using OtherOS-$VERSION, one can install FreeBSD on multiple PS3s, set up NFS, and have Firefox-3.5.X/3.X running. Noscript can be installed on it.
2. Using TWM, one can install Debian to the PS3 and run Iceweasel. Noscript can be installed on it. I am not mentioning NFS because its development on Linux is behind that of the BSDs and Solaris.
3. If a TomTom can be rooted, then the possibility of installing a version of Iceweasel for that architecture can be installed. You are forgetting about usb ip devices for internet connectivity.

Thrawn wrote: - aren't really relevant to the discussion of which OS a NoScript user is on, nor do they really come into play when discussing application compatibility. So Tom's position - that Windows supports the most applications - isn't really affected.

Android is a more convincing case, but I doubt Tom will ever be interested in running a mobile browser.

Windows does not support the most applications, the OSes that do are:.
1. Linux distros running wine on i386/amd64 allowing both Windows and Linux applications to be run.
2. Debian-kFreeBSD which allows Linux to be run on both FreeBSD compat- through a chroot setup, FreeBSD compat- through a chroot setup, Solaris compat- through a chroot setup, Windows compat- through wine, and native Linux applications. This is on i386/amd64.
3. FreeBSD on i386/amd64 for Solaris compat, Windows-wine, Linux compat, and Native FreeBSD.
4. NetBSD for FreeBSD compat, Linux compat on i386, ppc, amd64.

I'm a Linux user, FreeBSD tester- and porter when possible, NetBSD user, and OpenBSD user.

If a system runs a version of Firefox- include unbranded here- then it can run NoScript.

Other items that can run Firefox or an unbranded version are:

PS2, Wii, Smart devices supported by Debian & NetBSD, SBCs supported by Debian & NetBSD, and other architectures supported by whichever Linux distro and BSD flavor.
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Re: Giorgio (& others) why do you use the OS you use?

Postby GµårÐïåñ » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:42 pm

@scooty-cat: As a life long hacker and someone who has managed to get just about anything to do anything I want, I know that any device and infrastructure can practically be hacked to run anything, but that doesn't mean it applies to the mainstream or is a viable solution for everyone or that it was even intended to do so or even permitted by their respective manufacturer's in accordance with their TOS. I can take a farm of Xbox and PS3 gaming systems and configure them to create and launch missiles and even nuclear warheads, doesn't mean that it will be done or that it should be done or that the manufacturer wants it done. So we respect all input but keep in mind to tone it with relevance and practicality, not just "it can be done".
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