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by **Tom T.** » Wed May 02, 2012 11:05 am

Thrawn wrote:My $0.02: I've hit this issue before, when blocking Google Plus with ABE, and it was a real pain. When the message appeared in one window, it affected all windows, and since I often have several open, on different virtual desktops (in Ubuntu), it took me a while to even figure out why the right portion of the window was being pushed off-screen. I'd open the addon menu, and couldn't reach the buttons. The worst part was that the button to close the notification was pushed off-screen too! So, I had to press Tab and Enter and hope I reached the right point in the tab order.

I'm in favor of doing more line-wrapping - even if it means filling the whole page with an ABE message - if it at least means that there are no side effects on other tabs/windows, and I can reach the close button for the notification.

OK, make that three complaints -- and this one from an established member known to be tech-savvy as well. :geek:

I will ask Giorgio once more.

by **Thrawn** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:48 am

My $0.02: I've hit this issue before, when blocking Google Plus with ABE, and it was a real pain. When the message appeared in one window, it affected all windows, and since I often have several open, on different virtual desktops (in Ubuntu), it took me a while to even figure out why the right portion of the window was being pushed off-screen. I'd open the addon menu, and couldn't reach the buttons. The worst part was that the button to close the notification was pushed off-screen too! So, I had to press Tab and Enter and hope I reached the right point in the tab order.

I'm in favor of doing more line-wrapping - even if it means filling the whole page with an ABE message - if it at least means that there are no side effects on other tabs/windows, and I can reach the close button for the notification.

by **Tom T.** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:26 am

Had another user complaint.

@ Giorgio: Would this be difficult to do? Thanks.

by **Tom T.** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:52 am

GµårÐïåñ wrote:I am not saying that it will be necessarily a whole page, but I am saying depending on the length of the URL and the message composition, a really long one can end up taking up a lot of real estate, specially if you are on a machine like mine that is 10.1" widescreen laptop, or my other 13.3" widescreen laptop, but probably not on my 24" widescreen desktop monitor or even the 19" standard desktop monitor. I was just giving the worst case scenario.

Understood. Lending even more support to having a legible, tooltip overlay vs. bumping the page drastically while also truncating the message -- the worst of both worlds.

by **GµårÐïåñ** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:48 am

I am not saying that it will be necessarily a whole page, but I am saying depending on the length of the URL and the message composition, a really long one can end up taking up a lot of real estate, specially if you are on a machine like mine that is 10.1" widescreen laptop, or my other 13.3" widescreen laptop, but probably not on my 24" widescreen desktop monitor or even the 19" standard desktop monitor. I was just giving the worst case scenario.

by **Tom T.** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:33 am

GµårÐïåñ wrote:Ok, I failed in my explanation I think, let me try this again. The notification is not some DIV or hovering container that just shows up on TOP of the DOM container (the page) and can be read and dismissed, like a message box pop up. It ACTUALLY generates and shifts down the page container by a certain pixel amount and using that method, it would shift the ENTIRE page down when its painted and then you click close or go away by timer, it will shift the whole page back up again. See the difference now?

Yes, I've seen that with certain things blocked at Yahoo. But still, why would an ABE message be a whole page long? ... or more than a few lines?

If he did an injected hovering container (combination of HTML/CSS) then yeah it would just overlay and you can get rid of it, but if using the built-in API for the notification done by the browser, then it would actually shift the content and wouldn't just overlay.

Sounds like a good argument for the overlay. Will change the RFE accordingly.

by **GµårÐïåñ** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:19 am

Ok, I failed in my explanation I think, let me try this again. The notification is not some DIV or hovering container that just shows up on TOP of the DOM container (the page) and can be read and dismissed, like a message box pop up. It ACTUALLY generates and shifts down the page container by a certain pixel amount and using that method, it would shift the ENTIRE page down when its painted and then you click close or go away by timer, it will shift the whole page back up again. See the difference now?

If he did an injected hovering container (combination of HTML/CSS) then yeah it would just overlay and you can get rid of it, but if using the built-in API for the notification done by the browser, then it would actually shift the content and wouldn't just overlay. You can test this by playing with say NoScript notification or BetterPrivacy notification, know your rights notification from mozilla, Abine, and any other addon that uses the notification system and see what I mean about the shift.

by **Tom T.** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:53 am

GµårÐïåñ wrote:Can it be done, in short yes. But would it be advisable, probably not. As you know, the notification API that is used to show that, is a built-in function and designed to offset the page minimally but enough to get attention. If you wrap it and force it to show EVERYTHING, you can conceivably have it shift down the WHOLE screen to show a really long message and THAT would piss even me off to have everything go down off my whole screen just so a message can display and then have it disappear on a timer and then everything shifting back up again. You can see how that would be even more disruptive, just saying.

Not really. Having parts of it missing, and more of it blocking other things... all you have to do to make it go away is to click the X. Might as well get a chance to read the whole message before doing so.

Yes, can always go to Error Console instead, but then what's the purpose of having the Notification option, if that option is illegible?

Is a notification of a denied GET request really likely to be that long? Or of *any* ABE notice?

See above posts re: tooltip notification of about:config noscript.untrusted fitting perfectly. Perhaps show the brief details of the message, and a tooltip with the entire message?

"ABE blocked a GET request to evil.com. Hover mouse over this message for full message contents."

... or something like that?

by **GµårÐïåñ** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:07 am

Can it be done, in short yes. But would it be advisable, probably not. As you know, the notification API that is used to show that, is a built-in function and designed to offset the page minimally but enough to get attention. If you wrap it and force it to show EVERYTHING, you can conceivably have it shift down the WHOLE screen to show a really long message and THAT would piss even me off to have everything go down off my whole screen just so a message can display and then have it disappear on a timer and then everything shifting back up again. You can see how that would be even more disruptive, just saying.

by **Tom T.** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:54 pm

therube wrote:(I believe there was a similar request, from that bug finding maven - who hasn't been here of late, where some dialog was overly large - at times, & from what I recall Giorgio had a reason why it was left as it was.)

Well, since this may very well be a different dialog, and you can't recall what Giorgio said about the earlier one, seems that we should find out whether this one can be fixed.

by **therube** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:16 pm

(I believe there was a similar request, from that bug finding maven - who hasn't been here of late, where some dialog was overly large - at times, & from what I recall Giorgio had a reason why it was left as it was.)

by **Tom T.** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:38 am

GµårÐïåñ wrote:But to each their own and glad it got resolved and sorry not much else can be done other than making screens wide enough to cover any length message.

Do you think it would be too much trouble for Giorgio to cause the pop-up notification to automatically line-wrap as needed to the user's screen width?
about:config does this for me, with no difficulty, apparently. Tooltip on noscript.untrusted value is a perfect example: I get a box eight lines high, but exactly screen width, on a laptop.

I'm changing this to an RFE, so that Giorgio will at least look at it. If it can't be done, or it's too complex, OK, but if there's an easy code fix, it does as you said and encourages getting the visible notification.

Giorgio?

by **GµårÐïåñ** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:58 pm

Stephen, if you mean just the visual notification, then yeah, if the message is long and there isn't enough real estate (meaning screen width) it will get cut off but the content of that same notification are ALWAYS available in full in the error console, so you can always check the full message there.

What you did disabling the notification is probably the best way if that annoys you but I personally would suggest having it so you know when in fact it DOES block something, even if you don't see the whole message, so you know to go and check.

But to each their own and glad it got resolved and sorry not much else can be done other than making screens wide enough to cover any length message.

by **Stephen P. Schaefer** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:55 pm

Updating to Firefox 11.0 had no effect. Disabling ABE notifications solved the problem. Thanks!

- Stephen

by **Guest** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:39 pm

I'll update to Firefox 11; then I'll try turning off messages, and report back. The exact message was this (cut and paste from Ctrl-Shift-J), indicating that Facebook was denied on a page where I did want it denied (i.e., ABE *is* working as intended, except for the screen too wide issue):

Code: Select all: [ABE] <facebook.com *.facebook.com> Deny on {GET https://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?api_key=178263507018&channel_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs-static.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fconnect%2Fxd_proxy.php%23cb%3Dffc177b99a9aae%26origin%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fworkflowy.com%252Ff36bf48593c2172%26relation%3Dparent.parent%26transport%3Dpostmessage&extended_social_context=false&href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.workflowy.com&layout=button_count&locale=en_US&node_type=link&sdk=joey&show_faces=false&width=90 <<< https://workflowy.com/ - 7} USER rule: Site facebook.com *.facebook.com Accept from facebook.com *.facebook.com Deny

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